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my point is the marines defeated the whitebeard pirates, while blackbeard defeated whitebeard

their opponent was whitebeard pirates.

simple question who defeated whitbeard ( not whitebeard pirates)

Zoro should defeat both kaido and king while luffy defeats who? Mihawk

Who do you think would defeat kaido Luffy who has said he would defeat kaido like ten times or zoro who would defeat king and come out of. no where to kill kaido. Because who ever deals the last blow is the real winner, like it was the Blackbeard pirates that defeated and killed whitebeard not...