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I can agree with that and looking on current sequels of series here, Zeref's Curse can be more OP than you think here.

Battle of 3 of the Big 4 is getting intense....:ihaha:

Still Zeref was strongest of all in his kingdom, that been stated and justify as they even fear on angering him. They aren't stronger than Zeref by any means at all. FH Zeref is beyond that since his regular state and again if your going add rushed and BS moments, we can do same to what happen...

Interesting, but there are few points I disagree with like Zeref isn't stronger than Irene and August as they wouldn't follow him if he wasn't stronger. He is and could do attacks as strong Acnologia or even a bit more as Acnologia vouched on his power when they meet up and that is before FH...

No one is none factor as again don't use what happen in series when I stated we not following the same performance as in series otherwise we can BS our way beating Yhwach like Ichigo did in the end in rushed ending. We thinking on how far their powers can go with their abilities and quality writing.

They are OP, they should be here as well Naruto series too. Just respecting Big 4 series final enemies on how they compete. I'll do one in future to add One Piece down the line too.

Zeref hype that he can use it before FH came around, so he could probably manipulate it and if so then he could really kill them all. Now adding that to Round 3, It could also mess up Yhwach if he doesn't act quickly so got think of a lot of possible outcomes and abilities enemies have here as...

I can see all of that, but feel Round 2 could be anyone's fight since a lot of factors to take in and also personalities of others who will target who first and fastest to beat them.

That's why I said we using our knowledge of how it would go rather using quality of story as by that logic Aizen can be outsmarted or mess with easily on how Yhwach got to him as well Madara being fooled by Black Zetsu. We using if given quality on how they would react with no nerfs and...

Explain each round please.

Pretty sure Zeref face people before trying to seal him. He could face Aizen and undo his sealing to prevent him. Really? Well again we adjusting to what we think they can do and I feel they would try that since majority got time and space warping abilities, but if you mean without planning he...

Interesting, but Zeref is also among Round 2 who can't be kill due his curse and could affect them if not carefully especially Zeref going full power himself in that state. Also you sure for Round 3? As Many of opponemts as Time and Space warping abilities. They could effect reality to get...

Even with all different rounds and power ups on the respective series around?

Any newcomers to this thread?

So anyone else have thoughts on this?

Like given fair shake around to everyone. Plus which rounds your stating with that as he can't use that 1st and 2nd Rounds.

All Rounds or certain ones? 1571326123 You do see neither series having something to get passed Yhwach even if they work together and combine their own haxes back?

Well made this thread base on our thoughts of ways final enemy characters would be like without rushed or bad writing onto them, so could be a way to get passed him, but extreme about it depending.

Dang that is true. What possible could counter that?

Which rounds though on who wins and explain a bit more please?