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  1. WesMidnight

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1022 Spoilers Discussion

    Yeah so using them as any barometer of this fight is false equivalence. To give you an example so you understand: an untrained guy fighting against two untrained guys is a lot more possible IRL than an MMA fighter fighting against two MMA fighters at the same time. The further you go up in the...
  2. WesMidnight

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1022 Spoilers Discussion

    Kaku and Jyabura aren't yonko commanders, they are around the level of 100m men. You do realise Sanji has been protecting and worrying about Zoro's body in this battle to some extent and he was injured from Black Maria before?
  3. WesMidnight

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1022 Spoilers Discussion

    Kidd tanked the attack (augmented with Punishers) that knocked out Zoro :steef:
  4. WesMidnight

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1022 Spoilers Discussion

    That's some bullshit, maybe if Sanji was in his raidsuit with light speed boosters, but outside of that Luffy is faster and his future sight was what detected Hakai. Luffy could have evaded if it was just himself, but he had to waste time to warn the other SNs of his future sight detection.
  5. WesMidnight

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1022 Spoilers Discussion

    G4 Luffy ragdolled Kaido who was powerless against him while the G4 stamina remained. Big Mom was shocked to her core and Kidd's balls retracted up into his stomach seeing the potency. Luffy the future pirate king has far more willpower and tenacity than King the subordinate. Why was Katakuri...
  6. WesMidnight

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1022 Spoilers Discussion

    Even if you can cut flame Sabo can reform and control it easily, kind of like Big Mom's lighting homie but with even more scale and control. It's not like a beam that someone like Kaido has no control of after he shoots it.
  7. WesMidnight

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1022 Spoilers Discussion

    At least Sabo knew not to give up the pipe.
  8. WesMidnight

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1022 Spoilers Discussion

    Most of the WG are fairly smart, it's Luffy, Kidd and Zoro who are dumb, but they are also the strongest ones. Apoo tricked the Kidd pirates and Hawkins. Capone betrayed Big Mom and ruined her plans. Bonney knows some details about Kuma and the world government. Urouge is an unknown quantity.
  9. WesMidnight

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1022 Spoilers Discussion

    If by tank you mean hold for split second, get recked, get teleported... subsequently get knocked out, sleep for 30 minutes, have bones reset and have a senzu bean, then sure.
  10. WesMidnight

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1022 Spoilers Discussion

    Also Sanji was saving, holding, throwing and cheering Momo on. While King was completely focused on taking Sanji down, not a fair fight by any consideration. Does he want to pretend that Zoro could properly hold off King under a similar scenario?
  11. WesMidnight

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1022 Spoilers Discussion

    Garp's moniker was the fist, so his best asset was his punch also. It's not like Luffy who tries to counter headbutt specialists with his own headbutts. Tbh he very well may have been weaker than King, but he was his own man, and had more potential to reach the summit until he lost, that is...
  12. WesMidnight

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1022 Spoilers Discussion

    Garp trained to bust mountains to beat him.
  13. WesMidnight

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1022 Spoilers Discussion

    also self nerfing with telegraphed attacks, injured with bandages Luffy.
  14. WesMidnight

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1022 Spoilers Discussion

    Prime Chinjao was stronger than King...
  15. WesMidnight

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1022 Spoilers Discussion

    Kidd was in jail long term and lost at the same time, only prudent to take such measures if they were using Kamazou as an agent. Kaido has not shown speed or stats superior to Boundman outside of that one time. Boundman OVERWHELMED Kaido completely once Luffy had ryuo to actually damage him...
  16. WesMidnight

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1022 Spoilers Discussion

    Proper right hands have (base) CoC Rayleigh Katakuri Doflamingo Haki bloomed post Enma training Zoro
  17. WesMidnight

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1022 Spoilers Discussion

    They are delusional and lack logic. In their headcanon: Kaido was "attacked by adv CoC from Zoro with Asura" and it failed to push him off his feet, whereas Luffy's base augmented with adv CoC unnamed attacks did what Zoro said on panel he was ashamed he couldn't do with his all out attack...
  18. WesMidnight

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1022 Spoilers Discussion

    Basic biology says someone with 20 broken bones is in the medical room not fighting the WSC. One Piece doesn't operate on basic biology, and never has. Luffy could punch through giant boulders in the east blue. Hajrudin fight completely debunks your viewpoint.
  19. WesMidnight

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1022 Spoilers Discussion

    Your post is technically "true", but misleading. Let me break it down for you with an example. Machvise was full HP, but still "one hit away" from losing, because he lost after Hajrudin bust through with one powerful hit.
  20. WesMidnight

    Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1022 Spoilers Discussion

    You are full of cap, so your ass must be itchy if you are allergic. Read the fucking manga, look at hajrudin losing a strength clash, breaking his arm down to near powder and then winning that same strength clash. Look at Zoro or Luffy pushed to the edge multiple times throughout the manga and...
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