Questions & Mysteries Against whom Zoro will split the sky with ACOC for the first time

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  • Luffy

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  • Shiryu

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  • Shanks

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  • Gandhi

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  • Kizaru

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#63
The mental gymnastics people pull just because sanji doesn't have it, smh.

Naturally there's hierarchy even among advcoc users, however all of them reached a certain threshold that puts them above anyone else. It's a handful of the strongest (which means the strongest of the strongest CoC users) that have powerful enough CoC to be able to infuse it.The reason why some doffy, Katakuri or chinjao can't do it is not because they just didn't realize they can infuse it.

Demonstrative huge sky split is just that, demonstrative, and depends on how Oda wants to draw it. See wb/roger clash, it's also not looking exactly like luffy/kaido clash. Is prime roger and prime whitebeard fodder in your opinion?
Why do I care if Lanji has it?:kayneshrug:

No Yamato did not split the sky there, Oda very obviously would have put way more emphasis on it if she did, not just a vague panel, and Yamato herself wouldn't consider it a ridiculously impressive thing if she herself can do it.
 
#64

Since the sky is not explicitly split here, according to you, prime roger and prime wb were 'fodder' advCOC users and only in age WB managed to become 'not fodder'?
Except we're explicitly told that WB and Roger split the sky there by Oden's fucking journal...

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Get over your stupid cope, Yamato never split the sky with Kaido, Oda would have made it abundantly clear if that happened.
 
#65
Splitting the sky is nothing special. It's not a crazy Saitama kind of feat. It could have been Oda's intention back when Shanks and Whitebeard crossed swords, but now it's clear that's just a phenomena that occurs by two strong aCoC users clashing.

If Shiryu has aCoC, they will split the sky, if he doesn't have it, Zoro will destroy him.
 
#71
What’s the basis for zoro ashura moment not being adv coc ??? No lightning trails? Chapter title is called supreme king… we know kaido left the scar with adv coc ??? What am I missing that makes it a adv coa feat instead ?
Yes there are no trails for that attack. Zoro release burst of basic Coc at the moment he landed Asura. Zoro awakened it in that chapter while Luffy discovered adcoc that’s why it was titled supreme king. It was only against King Zoro started coating his attacks with adococ
 
#72
Yes there are no trails for that attack. Zoro release burst of basic Coc at the moment he landed Asura. Zoro awakened it in that chapter while Luffy discovered adcoc that’s why it was titled supreme king. It was only against King Zoro started coating his attacks with adococ
Can't argue with the explanation :cheers:
 
#75
It's like saying you will bully me when Sanji becomes stronger than Zoro, it will never happen..



No, it's only '' no touch '', Law and Oden hammered the point when the power was fully introduced.. People try to debate it cause Oda is inconsistent but there's no discussion here..

CoA level 2 Barrier is only used for defense, you can't use it offensively that's CoA level 3 and that is touching..
1.
Then you need to look up Kaido vs Kinemon. The ACoC connects to him, or "touching".

2.
Again, you need to look up Hyogoro's training for Luffy. There is a panel about advanced CoA. The illustrations shows a punch, side-by-side, Barrier/Emission (CoA 2) vs Internal Destruction (CoA 3).

The panel clearly shows a punch against a block of stone. That's an offensive use.
 
#76
1.
Then you need to look up Kaido vs Kinemon. The ACoC connects to him, or "touching".

2.
Again, you need to look up Hyogoro's training for Luffy. There is a panel about advanced CoA. The illustrations shows a punch, side-by-side, Barrier/Emission (CoA 2) vs Internal Destruction (CoA 3).

The panel clearly shows a punch against a block of stone. That's an offensive use.
Don't bother. Rootbeer is a great poster, but he is known to have his own definition of Haki things. So you'll see him contradict Oda/the manga a lot if it's about Haki.
 
#78
Your no touch argument is invalid and you will see why in a couple of chapters in.
Saying it's invalid doesn't make it invalid..

1.
Then you need to look up Kaido vs Kinemon. The ACoC connects to him, or "touching".

2.
Again, you need to look up Hyogoro's training for Luffy. There is a panel about advanced CoA. The illustrations shows a punch, side-by-side, Barrier/Emission (CoA 2) vs Internal Destruction (CoA 3).

The panel clearly shows a punch against a block of stone. That's an offensive use.
When the power is introduced in the narrative it's what matters not before nor after..




When the main character reveal a new Haki CoC level, Oda point it out with Law saying the same thing Oden said in the first hint at AdCoC clash with Roger and Whitebeard, the 2 most legendary pirates ever in the One Piece World..

The Barrier itself is a defensive ability, it can't do internal damage like CoA level 3 Internal Destruction and CoC Coating..
When Luffy used AdCoC for the first time he was Damaging Kaido internally and that was not CoA level 3 either because
it needs to make contact for it to be powerful..

Not Touching + Internal Damage = AdCoC
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Don't bother. Rootbeer is a great poster, but he is known to have his own definition of Haki things. So you'll see him contradict Oda/the manga a lot if it's about Haki.
Oda contradict himself a lot..
 
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#79
Saying it's invalid doesn't make it invalid..


When the power is introduced in the narrative it's what matters not before nor after..




When the main character reveal a new Haki CoC level, Oda point it out with Law saying the same thing Oden said in the first hint at AdCoC clash with Roger and Whitebeard, the 2 most legendary pirates ever in the One Piece World..

The Barrier itself is a defensive ability, it can't do internal damage like CoA level 3 Internal Destruction and CoC Coating..
When Luffy used AdCoC for the first time he was Damaging Kaido internally and that was not CoA level 3 either because
it needs to make contact for it to be powerful..

Not Touching + Internal Damage = AdCoC
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Oda contradict himself a lot..
Then what's your explanation on Kaido's ACoC attack on Kinemon? It is both ACoC & touching.
 
#80
Then what's your explanation on Kaido's ACoC attack on Kinemon? It is both ACoC & touching.
All instances where AdCoC is used and seen '' touching '', it's Oda deciding to draw them like that because it would be a mess to always portray panels '' No touching ''.. Basicly Oda cornered himself, so he has to be inconsistent with AdCoC when showcased..

But if you look at Shanks first main attack in the series, a named attack, he didn't touch either.. The Narrative significance matters more..
 
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