Character Discussion Are Tenguyama Hitetsu & Kozuki Sukiyaki the same person?

#1
01. Tenguyama is Old & seems to be Same Age Sukiyaki would be now if Alive
02. Tenguyama didn't appear in Oden's Flashback even though he is kinda relevant indicating he could have appeared as someone else
03. Both Tenguyama & Sukiyaki are introduced as Kokeshi Dolls Collectors which is Major Hint !!!
04. Tenguyama is wearing a Mask & his Face Shape is exactly same as Kozuki Sukiyaki, also same Height
05. Oden's Swords were entrusted to him even though, again, he wasn't shown in Oden's Flashback
06. Sukiyaki's Death was never shown, Oden never confirmed his Death
07. After saving Wano, it's possible that someone else will temporarily rule Wano with Momo & Sukiyaki is perfect pick
08. Tenguyama said he is waiting for someone for a long time & yet again, he wasn't shown in Oden's Flashback
09. Biggest Hint is so far is that Toei announced that the Voice Actor of Sukiyaki in Oden's Flashback will be same as Tenguyama !!!
10. As someone who can read the Poneglyphs & is Old, he might have Important Role in Post-Kaido part of Wano Arc
... etc

Both being Kokeshi Doll Collectors + Same Voice Actor + Same Body/Face Shape & Height + Same Age + Tenguyama not appearing in Oden's Flashback are Extremely Major Hints that cannot be ignored at all

So what do you guys think? And assuming Tenguyama is indeed Sukiyaki, what does this imply & how it will play out in the Story & Arc?
 
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#2
01. Tenguyama is Old & seems to be Same Age Sukiyaki would be now if Alive
02. Tenguyama didn't appear in Oden's Flashback even though he is kinda relevant indicating he could have appeared as someone else
03. Both Tenguyama & Sukiyaki are introduced as Kokeshi Dolls Collectors which is Major Hint !!!
04. Tenguyama is wearing a Mask & his Face Shape is exactly same as Kozuki Sukiyaki, also same Height
05. Oden's Swords were entrusted to him even though, again, he wasn't shown in Oden's Flashback
06. Sukiyaki's Death was never shown, Oden never confirmed his Death
07. After saving Wano, it's possible that someone else will temporarily rule Wano with Momo & Sukiyaki is perfect pick
08. Tenguyama said he is waiting for someone for a long time & yet again, he wasn't shown in Oden's Flashback
09. Biggest Hint is so far is that Toei announced that the Voice Actor of Sukiyaki in Oden's Flashback will be same as Tenguyama !!!
10. As someone who can read the Poneglyphs & is Old, he might have Important Role in Post-Kaido part of Wano Arc
... etc

Both being Kokeshi Doll Collectors + Same Voice Actor + Same Body/Face Shape & Height + Same Age + Tenguyama not appearing in Oden's Flashback are Extremely Major Hints that cannot be ignored at all

So what do you guys think? And assuming Tenguyama is indeed Sukiyaki, what does this imply & how it will play out in the Story & Arc?
Wow

Shukiyaki being alive and being tengu won't be a shock
Especially if the Voice actor is the same , both are kokeshi dolls collectors...

And why would he have Enma entrusted to him if he was just a random person not important to Kozuki.

riku was alive, hiding as a gladiator
Shukiyaki being alive and hiding as tengu ain't farfetched.

Kamazou : Killer
Shutenmaru : Ashura
The thief or whatever : Denjiro
Gyukumaru : Kawamatsu then the Fox took that name and appearance
Tenguyama:? Shukiyaki?
 
#4
Wow

Shukiyaki being alive and being tengu won't be a shock
Especially if the Voice actor is the same , both are kokeshi dolls collectors...

And why would he have Enma entrusted to him if he was just a random person not important to Kozuki.

riku was alive, hiding as a gladiator
Shukiyaki being alive and hiding as tengu ain't farfetched.

Kamazou : Killer
Shutenmaru : Ashura
The thief or whatever : Denjiro
Gyukumaru : Kawamatsu then the Fox took that name and appearance
Tenguyama:? Shukiyaki?
Exactly & nice catch, Wano so far has been about multiple Characters taking different identities (Just like a Play)

Shutenmaru (Ashura), Komurasaki (Hiyori), Ushimitsu Kozo (Denjiro), O-Kiku (Kikunojo), Gyukimaru (Kawamatsu & then later Onimaru), Kanjuro (Kurozumi Spy), O-Toko (Shimotsuki Toko), Yasu (Shimotsuki Yasuie), Grandpa Hyo (Hyogoro), Yamato posing as Oden,
Kamazou (Killer)

Not to mention Mr.2's DF reappearing in this Arc, Who's Who having a Mysterious Identity, Straw Hats were in Disguise, X-Drake turning to be a Marine Spy & who knows, maybe King & Bao Huang also have Secret Identities, maybe Sasaki is also Son of Kokoro ... etc

This is another Major Hint why Tenguyama could indeed be the Secret Second Identity of Sukiyaki
 
#6
If his best friend was kozaburo it could be a reason for kozaburo gifting enma and ame no habirkiri to oden
I agree, Enma was made by Kozaburo & Ame No Habakiri was made by Tenguyama so it makes sense that Oden got his Swords from his Father & his Best Friend

This actually adds more importance to Tenguyama in Oden's Past & yet he didn't appear
Also Yamato hinted at someone who saved Oden's Journal & if it was Toki, i don't think Oda would trigger our curiosity like that, so maybe it was Tenguyama
 
#8
I see this happening, been saying it for a while.

This will give it a chance for Momo to leave Wano, and Wano will have a leadership to rely on.

And grandfathers seem to always survive in this story. (Garp, Riku, Chinjao, …)
 
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