Future Events Asura Zoro vs Hybrid Kaido - Zoro's Chapter - Expectations?

What happens?

  • Dragon god prevails

  • Demon god prevails


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nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
#1
Yes, baby! It's time for the event of the year!

Even though chapter 1009 had its name related to Zoro's natural habitat(demons reside in Hell), it was still not named after Zoro directly which means that our good ole pal, Eiichiro Oda is saving up the good stuff for later. I have predicted months ago that Zoro will stop both Emperors at the same time but what I couldn't imagine even in my wildest dreams is that he would do it in his base form, without god form Asura, against no less than a fricking island buster!

Eiichiro Oda, you bloody mad man, you have done it again!

We know what that means, it means Zoro and Kaido are facing off against each other, in 1vs1, very, very soon!
We need to discuss what happens when Dragon god Kaido faces Demon god Zoro!

The fated clash of the Gods among men of One Piece draws near, that is the moment that Oda saved Zoro for all this time!
Zoro's limits cannot be shown against anyone but the best of the best, the undisputed number one of the OP universe!
What exactly awaits us in that apex of combat chapter?!

May your predictions be guided by two rules. One made by the man himself and the other made by none other than your favorite Zoro wanker - nik87.
Rule 1 - Do not speak ill of Zoro.
Rule 2 - Never bet against Zoro.

Are the skies going to split?! Are the seas going to dry up?!
Will the angels cry with joy?! Will the demons cover in fear?!
Is the skull dome going to break apart, will Hell engulf it all?!

Is the Moss head, in his Asura, able to stand on equal ground with Kaido's hybrid?
Will he perhaps be superior or ultimately fall short?
What are your expectations when the two strongest dig their claws in each other?


Note: This will not be the chapter in which Zoro kills Kaido.
Prepare yourselves, Oda is unleashing the Green Beast!
We will have to live through more Zoro wank chapters than just one.

Remember to play nice and no hits below the belt.


 
#14
I think we are way too early in the arc for Zoro to use Asura.

He will probably start with ISDS before showing us Asura too.

Asura will come in when all hope seems lost and Zoro/the WG have used all their cards.
That's what I see too. Actually I consider that Toki was referencing to "Kiki Kyutoryu Ashura" when she talked about the 9 shadows being casted.
Zoro will use it against Kaido while Toki's prophecy is rehearsed. Then Zoro will not only behead him but, while doing so, he will also turn the dark sky into mist ... to let appear the rising DAWN :finally:

How fitting for an advanced CoC technique, right ? :myman:
What ?! You've never heard of this theory, have you ? Well here is mine. Hope you find it interesting :
Your reaction right now :
:jinbewat: WHAT WAS THAT ???
:saitahu:What kind of weed is this retarded smoking ? Give me that shit :datas:


First of, I want you to know that I don't smoke anything at all ! :kriwhat:
Now come on come on, let me explain my point before making fun of me :
Here, it looks like Zoro has manifested his anger and frustration through the shape of an Ashura, a power-seeking malevolent being with six arms and three heads.
Many say that it's a demonic spirit coming from his Sandai Kitetsu or that Zoro is himself a demon.
However, the most logical explanation for me is that Zoro used his spiritual concentration and his mental strength to materialize 6 extra members in order to use 9 swords at the same time. But how did he manage to do it ?
Yeah, you get it ! This was an Advanced Conqueror's Haki :finally:


I couldn't find any other translation for this, so my reasoning might be wrong :
  • Here, Rayleigh says that CoC is none other than the manifestation of a user's spirit, which is essentially what Zoro does with "Kiki Kyūtōryū Ashura".
    Kaku points out that Zoro might have created it with his own spirit (CoC is the closest clue to explain this kind of feat as we haven't seen any ability related to a person's spirit yet).
  • Rayleigh also mentions that the individual's CoC can only be strengthened through his personal growth. Well, Zoro has been the embodiment of willpower since his childhood :
    • Against her childhood rival, he lost over 2000 times but each time he was growing stronger with the ambition to beat her one day. Though, he had to face 2 more hardships :
      • the fact that it may have been his physical advantage as a growing man that made him this strong but not his hard training nor the skills he developed, as if all the efforts he did were utterly useless since the beginning.
      • her rival dying before he could beat her, which made Zoro even more doubtful of his progress.
    • Against the actual WSS :
      • in their first encounter, Zoro got completely humiliated. He was shown how far he is from his dream. But, his ambition stay still and he made the promise to never lose again.
      • the second time they met, he had to swallow his pride to ask his greatest rival to train him in order to become stronger for his captain.
    • Whenever he faces despair, he always manages to overcome it (showing great willpower). He also comes up with 2 ways to increase his concentration strength (which is related to his willpower) :
      • Meditation
        • example : in the end of Alabasta Arc after his fight against Daz Bones, he meditates to increase permanently his concentration ability and to be able to use Armament Haki at any time.
      • Incantation
        • he usually says some kind of buddhism incantations before launching particularly powerful attacks. Saying those incantations might help him to focus in performing a difficult technique.
  • If we agree that the following points are valid characteristics for a CoC user (overcoming despair to seek for even more power and resorting to meditation and incantation to burst out immense power), then it proves furthermore that "Kiki Kyūtōryū Ashura" is an advanced CoC technique since those characteristics also fit the buddhistic conception of an Ashura.
    Plus, Rayleigh brings out "Until you have brought it under control, you must avoid overusing it at all costs".
    That totally explains why Zoro didn't used "Kiki Kyūtōryū Ashura" in Thriller Bark nor in post-TS yet : because he hasn't brought it under control (besides being already too strong to need it :wellwell:).


In chapter 1009, Kaido & Big Mom used a combined attack named "Hakai" (覇海) (meaning "conquering the sea"). The first kanji 覇 (ha) in "覇海”(Hakai) is the first one in 覇王色の覇気 (conqueror's haki or supreme king haki) and the word hakai is also a pun, as 破壊(hakai) means destroy.
So we can interpret this attack as a sea of conqueror's haki which ultimately get blocked by Santoryu Zoro without using any technique :jinbewat:
If this interpretation is correct, Zoro must have used conqueror's haki too through his massive barrier haki to be able to contain this pure CoC attack for some time.

Remember the last time Zoro had to face an overwhelming attack meant to finish in one blow ? It was against Kaku's strongest Rankyaku, "Amanedachi", which got turned to mist by one of the 2 attacks ever shown with "Kiki Kyūtōryū Ashura" : it was "Ichibugin".
If Zoro was confident enough to destroy "Hakai", he would have definitely used this technique as it's the most fitting one to deal with an infused CoC attack. Plus, Ashura is also the embodiment of destruction itself in buddhism mythology whereas the word hakai means destroy (so that makes one more parallel).



While I am at it, since the Haki explanation by Hyogoro for the Breath Of All Things moment in Alabasta, I got a feeling that some of his unexplained techniques may be Haki related :
For the fire cut, I find it hard to believe this is just a motif. I really think Zoro impersonates himself as a flying dragon with the will to burn Ryuma (he didn't have salt on him to purify Ryuma's corpse so burning him was the only solution left to take away Brook's shadow).
My explanation is that Zoro's will to burn Ryuma flowed from his soul to his Wado Ichimonji. Then this blade, by cutting Ryuma, left a mark of that will on Ryuma's corpse which resulted in him burning it entirely. I think it's an Advanced Armament Haki, a bit like the Kinemon's Fox Fire style or Okiku's Lingering Snow style (basically some Natural Element Haki).
In this case, either he created an illusion to make his swords look like they were bending or they were actually bending.
For the latter, I would say he used Armament Haki. Not to harden his swords but rather to soften them so that he can create and accelerate the speed of the waves on his swords (just like a whip) to significantly increase his offensive power.
Here, Zoro manages to successfully escape a whole series of light-speed point-blank attacks thrown by Kuma. To achieve such a feat, I guess he unconsciously used Observation Haki.
 
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Finalbeta

Law Nerd
#15
I expect Zoro to allegedly unleash his Asura mode, I am curious circa the ratio of power boost the Grandmaster will undergo by unleashing it compared to the power boost in Pre TS. It would also depend on whether or not he further mastered it assuming there was anything to. But overall I expect a robust power inflation.

Also no one tells us that it's necessarily all he has got left to show us and that an entirely new power up won't appear, albeit it might prove overkill.
 
#17
Damn not even using Asura yet. The feats he has displayed thus far has been mind-blowing and its crazy to think he hasn't displayed his absolute peak yet. We're going to get more than just opening a scar. To me thats not enough for the people of Wano. He's got to slay that beast. Whether he does it himself or a combo attack with Luffy. Its got to be incredibly epic. I don't want Oda to let Kaido slide. Go all out and have someone actually kill Kaido.
 

Finalbeta

Law Nerd
#18
Of course we will see Asura Zoro vs kaido,maybe not in that chapter maybe later.....but men what he did in this chapter:crazwhat:

Imagine what he will do in his chapter I can't wait for it:hohoho:
If Zoro unleashes a new power up superseding even Asura I might legit get a real life heart attack.

If not Luffy developed a new gear which is like a mode, but on the other hand part of his devil fruit too, so more probable to be unleashed.

It could be also an attack(s) nonetheless.
 
#20
It will parallel 783 and 784 when luffy unveiled gear 4th
The first chapter will contain Kaido talking shit to zoro, saying he’s no oden, the chapter will end with zoro uttering ashura
the actual zoro chapter we‘ll see a 9 armed haki demon and he‘ll go in on Kaido probably will be the bloodiest chapter in op
the fandom will react like they always do they’ll say it’s not impressive because luffy punched Kaido in chapter 1000 and hes still recovering or something along those lines
bonus: 15 chapters later zoro lobs his head off
 
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