Best Anti-Hero Round 2


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Jack Vessalius

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In this round in this thread we will have 8 characters, which means 4 fights.


William James Moriarty from Moriarty the Patriot
If thereโ€™s any franchise thatโ€™s been told and retold through a variety of media itโ€™s Sherlock Holmes, so itโ€™s no surprise to see an anime take of the iconic detective (nor is it the first time). However, Moriarty the Patriot tells the story from the POV of Sherlockโ€™s most noteworthy adversary and kiiiiinda gets you on his side, like, immediately.

Fans of mysteries will likely be familiar with at least the most famous of Doyleโ€™s Holmes stories, perhaps through Hollywood or BBC interpretations, if not through the stories themselves. Though originally a rather minor character, Professor Moriarty has come to serve as Holmesโ€™s arch nemesis in modern tellings. He is a cold, brilliant, and calculating villain, the โ€œNapoleon of crimeโ€ who keeps the hero on his toes at all times. Because Moriartyโ€™s background is inconsistent in the Doyle stories, it is easy to reinvent him, as Ryosuke Takeuchi and Hikaru Miyoshi do in Moriarty the Patriot. In the manga, the boy who would become Professor Moriarty and his younger brother, Louis, are poor orphans who have been adopted into the Moriarty family as a show of noblesse oblige. Our protagonist jaunts around town under the guise of William James Moriarty, the Moriarty familyโ€™s younger son who has no interest in the people of their town. Together with the eldest son Albert, the future Professor and Louis conspire to kill the cruel Moriarty family in an โ€œaccidentalโ€ fire, leaving the three boys to rectify the wrongs of the English noble classes as nobles themselves.

The premise

The 19th century British Empire is an entire mess, rife with problematic aristocrats who delight in tormenting the lower class. The class system is set to work against the average citizen and the Moriarty brothers, who are part of an aristocratic family themselves, have decided to tear the unjust structure apart.

William James Moriarty (the middle brother/main protagonist) works as a professor by day but also works as a โ€œcrime consultantโ€ who takes cases from those who have been wronged by the upper class. He and his brothers (Albert and Louis) work as a team, but their actions soon catch the attention of Sherlock Holmes, setting the stage for the ultimate battle of wits.

And there we have our twist: The Professor Moriarty who is so evil in most Sherlock Holmes adaptations is, in this manga, attempting to equalize society. He is a class traitor in both senses; growing up poor, he has risen to the nobility, but as a noble he consults on the behalf of the working classes, holding his wealthy peers accountable for their exploitation of, and distaste for, anyone they deem below them. But he is not completely sanitized as a misunderstood villain. No, Professor Moriarty is still as calculating as ever, his meticulous methods still relying heavily on manipulation, coercion, and threats. His motives might be pure, but his means still leave the ordinary person shuddering at their cruelty.

How Moriartyโ€™s cases work

The basic formula goes a little something like this: one of the Moriarty brothers (usually Willaim) hears about a crime (usually murder). The crimes Moriarty takes on always involve the lower class, those who donโ€™t have the means to seek justice. Though, honestly, even if they could their cries would go unheard because the culprits are always upper-class citizens who are either never suspected or who get away with it because theyโ€™re rich.

This ranges from โ€œbored rich asshole kills children on his off dayโ€ to โ€œgardener pleads with his boss to let him consult his doctor because his son is dying, but his boss is a rich asshole whoโ€™s worried that his gardenerโ€™s kid is gonna give him poor person cooties.โ€

Did I mention that the boss is rich because of his gardenerโ€™s hard work?

Once Willaim (with the help of his brothers) gets all the pieces together, he gets a hold of the wronged party and offers his services, making sure to point out how this, technically, would be seen as a crime even if they were the ones who were wronged! William doesnโ€™t do the job unless if the grieving family wants him to, so basically, he asks for consent to rid the world of this particular brand of filth. If they agree then a plan is put into motion where the grieving party is able to come face to face with the aristocrat who killed their loved one.

Now hereโ€™s the kicker.

William isnโ€™t the one who kills the target, the grieving family does. This can be as subtle as serving food that someone reacts poorly to, or as blunt as stabbing someone to death. Whatever the case, William makes sure all the evidence is cleaned up, and the family is able to get away with it.

Miyoshiโ€™s artwork gives Moriarty a bishonen air, making his complexity all the more alluring to the manga fan who is accustomed to the dramatically layered characters of the medium. Indeed, the cast is made up of several handsome men working with Moriarty to realize his utopian dream. The Victorian setting is well established, both visually and as part of the plot, depicting an England on the verge of change and progress.

The Lord of the Crime, Moriarty

Upon becoming the Lord of the Crime, a stage in his plan, he has already designated a man who shall stop him and be the shinning light of the world. That man is none other than Sherlock Holmes

Moriarty has made himself into the ultimate evil, thus forcing people to ally against him, and stay united, and thus fulfilling his coveted dream.


As a prominent character in Inuyasha, Sesshomaru has underwent tremendous growth during its serialization. From one of the original antagonists who sought the demise of his younger half sibling, to a reluctant ally at times to accepting Inuyasha and fighting alongside him. Much of this time is spent being fiercely independent however as Sesshomaru grows through the series, holding a disdain for his half brother and showing little (If any) respect for Inuyashaโ€™s abilities.

A stoic and looking figure, one can consider Sesshomaru to be another character in the vein of Byakuya or Itachi. However, the underlying issues surrounding his fathers passing gives him a realistic motivation. Since an heirloom was handed off Inuyasha the half/demon instead of the full blooded Sesshomaru, his sense of self worth is originally tied to reclaiming it.

Eventually, Sesshomaru befriends a human who reluctantly aids him. This relationship with the child fosters a strange kindness inside Sesshomaru that manifests when Sesshomaru travels to the pits of literal Hell to rescue her. When reality strikes Sesshomaru that his powers arenโ€™t enough, he makes a selfless act of altruism and purifies the many tormented cadavers in Hell pleading for help.

This finalizes Sesshomaruโ€™s growth. Placing another life before his own and taking pity on others. This change allows Sesshomaru to cooperate with Inuyasha and willingly gives away part of his own power to his half brother, knowing it suits Inuyasha more than himself.


Musashi from Vagabond
Musashi starts out as a violent and aggressive teen whose only goal in life it is to become the strongest and defeat every fighter he comes across. He is cocky, arrogant, cruel and has no respect for life, neither the life of his opponents nor his own. Musashi is the opposite of your typical โ€šheroโ€˜.

What awaits the reader over the course of the series, on the other hand, is an amazing character development. Choosing the path of a wandering swordsman, firstly he sets out to challenge strong opponents but his character arc consists of much more than just this. More so, Vagabond is the story of Musashiโ€™s life as a whole and his development as a human being.
What makes Musashi such an amazing anti-hero is that he, despite being a violent savage, has the will to improve both in combat and mentally/spiritually. Unlike other characters in the series, Musashi is shown to seek for a deeper meaning to life and an answer to the true meaning of โ€˜strengthโ€™. He struggles, he suffers, he fails and time and again he has to come to terms with his insecurities and face his weaknesses.

Killing people in duels might be legal in his time period. But the many battles he fights make him realize that killing an opponent is not as simple as he had thought it is. Musashi grows to understand that taking a life is a horrendous act in itself. That every person he kills is a human being with dreams, friends, family. Eventually the act of killing makes him feel sick, he grows weary of his violent everyday lifestyle as a Ronin. Musashiโ€™s quest for the meaning of life eventually cumulates in the farming arc where he learns that he must โ€˜fightโ€™ for making a living instead of fighting with the sword. Musashi turns from a loner into a person who can cooperate with and support other people.

All in all, Musashiโ€™s character arc is a quest for the meaning of life. Neither is he a โ€˜good guyโ€™ nor a saviour or protector to the weak. He goes from an overly violent and essentially suicidal young man to an adult who can love and care for others, accept his own emotions and understands that life has value, even his own.


Ghost Rider
ohnathon "Johnny" Blaze a.k.a Ghost Rider is an American motorcycle stunt performer, and entertainer turned Spirit of Vengeance.He was the son of famed stuntman Barton Blaze who tragically died during a stunt. He became bound to Zarathos the Spirit of Vengeance after making a deal with the Demon Mephisto to spare the life of his surrogate father Crash Simpson. Now with the power to control Hellfire and to inflict pain on those he deemed evil with his Penance Stare, Blaze seeks vengeance riding his Hell Cycle as the Ghost Rider.



โ€The Bird of Hermes is my nameโ€ฆ eating my wings to make me tame.โ€


Alucard is dubbed as the most powerful vampire alive. He is the main protagonist of the Hellsing series, does not have any misgivings about killing humans and fiends alike.

He is the main fighting force of the Hellsing company and is a true monster. He kills his enemies with raging ferocity and cruelty. The only thing that makes Alucard seem less evil is that most of his victims are even worse than him. As most of his victims are Nazis and beings that are enemies of humanity, Alucard does seem more like a real hero and cares deeply for his charge Seras Victoria.


Mister Pink from Reservoir Dogs
Mister Pink is the best character in the best Tarantino movie up to date : Reservoir Dogs.

Mister Pink is part of the crew. The team is tasked to rob a bank but things went south fast when the cops arrived earlier than expected because one of the member of the team was in fact a infiltrated cop.

Through the movie Mister Pink is often the comic relief, one of the nicest guy, here to do his job, but not a real bad guy. Yes he robbed a bank and his a criminal but no useless blood, no useless violence, first talking etc.

In the climax he was one of the only level headed man who tried to calm everyone. Only thing he wants is everyone being professional.

Mister Pink is also one of the smartest here : he think on his two feet. He is the one telling everyone that they were indeed sold. He is the one hiding when everyone became crazy and shot. And Pink is the only one to survive in the end with the diamonds.

And the cherry on the cake, Oda used Mr.Pink to create Sanji design :stealthblack:


Jules Winnfield from Pulp Fiction
Jules Winnfield is one of the main characters in Quentin Tarantino's 1994 film "Pulp Fiction", He is played by Samuel L Jackson.

Jules worked as a hitman for Marsellus Wallace alongside his partner Vincent Vega. After having a moment of "divine intervention" Jules decides to quit the life of a killer and become a drifter, in his own words "Walk the earth". His arc in the film is that of salvation and the ending scene in the diner perfectly exemplifies that.


The Punisher
Driven by the deaths of his wife and two children, who were killed in the mob for witnessing a killing in New York Cityโ€™s Central Park, the Punisher wages a one-man war on crime using various weapons. His methods include murder, kidnapping, extortion, coercion, threats of violence, and torture in his campaign against crime.



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Jack Vessalius

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Jack Vessalius

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So the votes now are actually

F1 - 15:15

F2 - 15:15

F3 - 19:11

F4 - 12:18

If this remains the same, due to RNG, Moriarty and Musashi will advance.

Jack Vessalius

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You already RNG'd this? You have no hope for more participants?
Yeah I am getting ready for work so I did it now. But, someone voted in the meantime, but nothing changed lol. Only F1 and F2 are
16:15 now. F3 is 19:12, and F4 13:18.

Honestly I was just pretty busy.
but we also agreed at the beginning not to do this for every tournament.
Yeah I wasn't blaming you or anything. Just informed Solis about it.