Powers & Abilities Can “mythical logias” exist?

[Cruxroux]

And both ice and wood are not the elements of the Logias: they can produce Ice and Wood, but one is the cold cold fruit (and not the ice fruit), and that is why other that produce ice can cool down anything, from water to magma probably; and the same Nature it's not just wood: the main prodcut is wood because plants, but Ryo can make grass and every plant grow, he literally regenerated from a flower.

Actually you're wrong.
- Aramaki fruit is officially called " Woods-Woods Fruit "
And
- Aokiji Fruit is called " Ice - Ice Fruit ".
Hiehie means
Chilly / Forest are just translation issues.
- There's no such word called chilly in japanese.
Hiehie means Cold/Feeling Chilly but aokiji fruit was directly compared Yuki Yuki no mi , which is Snow Snow no mi. And ice > Snow.

 

[Dragon777]

Actually you're wrong.
- Aramaki fruit is officially called " Woods-Woods Fruit "
And
- Aokiji Fruit is called " Ice - Ice Fruit ".
Hiehie means
Chilly / Forest are just translation issues.
- There's no such word called chilly in japanese.
Hiehie means Cold/Feeling Chilly but aokiji fruit was directly compared Yuki Yuki no mi , which is Snow Snow no mi. And ice > Snow.

No, you can verify easily.

First Aokiji:

"Hiehie" (冷え冷え/ひえひえ?) means "feeling chilly/cold" in Japanese.

You can check easily. "ice ice" was just a bad translation by Funimation, as thousand others. Viz called him "Chilly Chilly" too btw.
It was also confirmed by Aokiji callim himself a Freezing Human (氷結人間, Hyōketsu Ningen?) and not, as you can see, an Ice human.

You can see the difference in practical use since Aokiji can literally suck the heat out of anything and not just throw ice around as the Fire fruit or the smoke fruit.

Then Aramaki:

Mori (森?) is the Japanese word for "forest".

And Aramaki himself describing it:

I'm a "Forest Human" through the Mori Mori no Mi!!! A creator of life rivaling the "seas"!!! That's "Logia" [Nature] itself!!!

Aramaki, just like Aokiji, embodies a whole concept. He can produce wood as he can produce flowers or grass; he is all a "forest" can be. Nature itself, as he himself describes it.

 

[Logiko]

mythic Zoans are zoans that let you turn into animals that don’t exist

couldn’t there be a logia equivalent of this where the user can transform into an element that does not exist?

We already have something similar to this with the yami yami no mi. The darkness Teach creates isn’t anything that exists irl. Yes black holes exist, but they are nothing like what Teach creates.

another example of a mythical logia could be a philosopher’s stone logia. This could be a good candidate for Imu’s DF, as the philosopher’s stone is said to be able to grant immortality, which Imu seems capable of doing.

While Imu is shown shapeshifting, this isn’t necessarily indicative of him having a zoan as logias can shapeshift and even mimic zoans(see: Karasu).

Ultimately I think this would be really cool and imaginative and would be much better than all the mythical zoans we’ve seen as of late.

That's interesting there are some possibilities here:


- Anti-Matter : Explods to the contact of matter (no more One Piece world after the first punch)

- Aether : The mythical missing element that is supposed to hold matter together (it would look like very strange)

- Nanite : Microscopic machines that could create pretty much everything imaginable but would be weak to electricity

- Tachyon : A faster than light fictional particule that can allow time travel. You could hit a target and modify temporarily the internal clock of the matter.

- Dark Matter : In the universe we think the Dark energy in the thing that speeds up the expansion of the universe. To a high degree, you could imagine that it would repel anything or break appart any matter.

But my favorite :

- The Flubber : A semi solid fluid. That makes things rebound to the extrem. Can take anyshape.

 

[Cruxroux]

And Aramaki himself describing it:

Aramaki, just like Aokiji, embodies a whole concept. He can produce wood as he can produce flowers or grass; he is all a "forest" can be. Nature itself, as he himself describes it.

Why should I care about what aramaki says my dude. Officially it's woods woods and mori mori no mi.
Mori = Woods.

You can check easily. "ice ice" was just a bad translation by Funimation, as thousand others. Viz called him "Chilly Chilly" too btw.
It was also confirmed by Aokiji callim himself a Freezing Human (氷結人間, Hyōketsu Ningen?) and not, as you can see, an Ice human.

You can see the difference in practical use since Aokiji can literally suck the heat out of anything and not just throw ice around as the Fire fruit or the smoke fruit.

And Viz gave same translation to Samu Samu no mi as well. That's how you know it's either pun or straight up wrong.

And if that's the case Oven fruit should be stronger than Both Akainu and Ace. Which is straight up dumb , because he is called Heat - Heat no mi.

To the matter of fact , Cold is not natural element Ice is and wood is.

You know I'm correct. Stop building useless things around it.

 

[Dragon777]

Why should I care about what aramaki says my dude. Officially it's woods woods and mori mori no mi.
Mori = Woods.

Becuase he himself is describing his own fruit meaning Oda Is describing It using the words of the character that has it?

Other that that, no: I literally posted the japanese term.

Mori Mori = Forest.
Woods in english mean Forest btw, not wood.

And Viz gave same translation to Samu Samu no mi as well. That's how you know it's either pun or straight up wrong.

What a non canon fruit has anything to do lol?

Again, I posted the japanese term that is literally "Chilly/Having cold", and Aokiji Is a freezing human, not an Ice human.
Btw, Viz official trad Is "Chilly", not Ice, so even than.

To the matter of fact , Cold is not natural element Ice is and wood is.

That It way I have said:

"Mythical" is not to be taken too literally. "Superior" or not "material" could be it.

Tbf, elements like Drakness, Cold or Nature are not the same as Smoke or Sand or Fire. Some of them are concepts more than real elements.
Having said that, maybe that doesn't lead anywhere.

You know I'm correct. Stop building useless things around it.

You knowv I am literally only using the japanese term and even official traduciton, so no.

Idk if this Is even relevant, but it's factual: BB, Aokiji and Ryo at least have not the classical Logia fruit with the classic element.

That Is refelcted in even how they are colled both the fruit and then: Hie-Hie, Chilly - Chilly and freezing human, not Ice-Ice and ICE human, as Sabi or Smoker or Crocodile or any other.

 

[Moewu]

What about a "stardust" devil fruit power? You know, since we all have this Planet themes with the Gorosei, Enel and the Moon etc.

 

[Blax Blah]

If fruits are wished into existence, one could wish to be made out of mythical creatures, like Karasu's fruit =],

 

[Rootbeer]

mythic Zoans are zoans that let you turn into animals that don’t exist

couldn’t there be a logia equivalent of this where the user can transform into an element that does not exist?

We already have something similar to this with the yami yami no mi. The darkness Teach creates isn’t anything that exists irl. Yes black holes exist, but they are nothing like what Teach creates.

another example of a mythical logia could be a philosopher’s stone logia. This could be a good candidate for Imu’s DF, as the philosopher’s stone is said to be able to grant immortality, which Imu seems capable of doing.

While Imu is shown shapeshifting, this isn’t necessarily indicative of him having a zoan as logias can shapeshift and even mimic zoans(see: Karasu).

Ultimately I think this would be really cool and imaginative and would be much better than all the mythical zoans we’ve seen as of late.

Energy Energy mythical model Magic or something.. Only one i could see with a mythical Logia is yeah Imu if it's possible..

 

[JoNdule]

No there's no such thing as mythical logia

Yami Yami is a special logia which will be shown to be zoan fruit or just special logia
Its awakening will allow Teach to have logia intangibility that he doesn't have in base]