Speculations Can this "Critical Mass" also break Lunarian defence?

#1
As of now, lunarian defence has been shown as the most difficult defence to break. It has been implied that Lunarian defence can also survive thru adcoc attacks.

But we know that no hax in this series is completely immune Haki as we saw this critical mass haki usage was able to break through immortality and regen.

Is it possible that this same way can be used to break Lunarian defence?
 
#3
There’s no reason to believe they’re completely invulnerable with their flames on

For one, we know they lost and were wiped out. Wouldn’t make sense if they were literally impossible to hurt

Two, Zoro noted that King was very clearly afraid of him and the damage he could do after unlocking ACoC. Whether ACoC specifically is required or whether the boost it gave to Zoro’s already insane attack power pushed him over the edge… we don’t know

I’m leaning towards the latter though (flame on King isn’t beating top tier non-ACoC users most likely)

Enough AP regardless of the source should get the job done
 
#4
It's implied Zoro's attacks were enough to get through the defense once he unlocked ACoC.
Zoro noted that King was very clearly afraid of him and the damage he could do after unlocking ACoC.
Zoro used AdCoC with OniGiri here but he himself said it wouldn't be effective since the flames were on.

We don't know what Adcoc would have done to Lunarian defence since there is no panel of lunarian being attacked with AdCoC
 
#6
Zoro used AdCoC with OniGiri here but he himself said it wouldn't be effective since the flames were on.

We don't know what Adcoc would have done to Lunarian defence since there is no panel of lunarian being attacked with AdCoC
Cause zoro doesn't know enough about them.

King shitting himself even in flame on form, and punks shitting themselves when Franky aimed a laser at a flame on seraph, is a much better indication of their limits.
 
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#10
Are you talking about zoro not knowing he has CoC?
Because it doesn't matter if he knows he has CoC or not, he's still using AdCoC regardless. Zoro going 100% with his Haki against King, doesn't think haki would be effective when he's in flame on mode
i'm talking about lunarians.

zoro doesn;t know enought about them. he's speculating there that acoc won't hurt them in flame on mode. But later he himself asks king why he started blocking his acoc hits. meaning acoc can hurt flame on king.
 
#11
If we have learned anything in GV flashback, it's that haki conquers all.

Anyways, like others said it was implied Zoro's KOH could hurt King in defense mode.

There's a reason Alber used speed mode to get far away from Zoro and use a long ass range attack.
 

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#13
As of now, lunarian defence has been shown as the most difficult defence to break. It has been implied that Lunarian defence can also survive thru adcoc attacks.

But we know that no hax in this series is completely immune Haki as we saw this critical mass haki usage was able to break through immortality and regen.

Is it possible that this same way can be used to break Lunarian defence?
Probably because otherwise Lunarians have no weakness and it is up to PIS to make them lose.
 
#17
I’d say yeah, I know ppl like to suggest King switched off his defense in his final clash with Zoro even though he was using a stationary attack. Zoro cut a chunk of his wing off and I really doubt Oda did this whole narrative about Lunerian durability, Zoro awakening his conquerors haki, and King being afraid of getting hit if conquerors haki wasn’t the answer and I’m sure it took a great deal of mass to push through.
 
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