Character Discussion Do Zoro and Sanji have the same level?

[Roronoa-sama]

It always put sanji in the same level than zoro but the reallity it's both doesn't have same level and representative, it's only humuristic representative as another crew( like shanks and buggy).
Example why sanji doesn't have the same representative? would be several like:
1) Zoro is a worstgen and he has been able to defeat with realitive ease (Hawkins, Killer and appo)
2) Zoro was reconazied as Vic for many character (Uroge, Queen, Bartolo...)
3) zoro humiliated Pika and was stopped by a admiral while sanji was destroyed by vergo and doffi

 

[PurpleSwordsman]

>>> Zoroliebers headcanon

 

[HA001]

>>> Zorolieberes headcanon

So how does that work to this day when after that zoro got shusui and trained by a top tier for 2 years when sanji was running stealing recipies from okama?

 

[duckman]

Sanji was destroyed by Vergo? In Two Piece?

 

[PurpleSwordsman]

So how does that work to this day when after that zoro got shusui and trained by a top tier for 2 years when sanji was running stealing recipies from okama?

Sanji never trained and still was at Zoro's lvl since ever.
Doesn't matter with who he trained, Oda made them Luffy's wings with Zoro a bit stronger.

 

[Roronoa-sama]

>>> Zorolieberes headcanon

Put full chapter when luggy said it only rok form counts

 

[Ice devil slayer]

Zoro is stronger
Everyone except braindead people knows that

 

[Roronoa-sama]

Sanji was destroyed by Vergo? In Two Piece?

He broke his leg.
There's the same than sword zoro was broken

 

[HA001]

Sanji never trained and still was at Zoro's lvl since ever.
Doesn't matter with who he trained, Oda made them Luffy's wings with Zoro a bit stronger.

If training doesnt matter why waste 2 years
Why did luffy and zoro just train again before the raid if it doesnt matter ?
As usual your points are utter shit.

 

[Guymieux]

Zoro obviously, how many times do you need to ask this question?, only retards think otherwise. They should be admitted to a mental hospital.

 

[stealthblack]

It always put sanji in the same level than zoro but the reallity it's both doesn't have same level and representative, it's only humuristic representative as another crew( like shanks and buggy).
Example why sanji doesn't have the same representative? would be several like:
1) Zoro is a worstgen and he has been able to defeat with realitive ease (Hawkins, Killer and appo)
2) Zoro was reconazied as Vic for many character (Uroge, Queen, Bartolo...)
3) zoro humiliated Pika and was stopped by a admiral while sanji was destroyed by vergo and doffi

Queen recognized sanji as second, why do You think he had the bigger bounty in top poster

 

[PurpleSwordsman]

If training doesnt matter why waste 2 years
Why did luffy and zoro just train again before the raid if it doesnt matter ?
As usual your points are utter shit.

That's not the point.
The point was that Sanji despite not training was only 20 dourikis below Zoro, or around a 1% weaker.
So -> Timeskip -> both trained -> doesnt matter how and with who -> the difference will be the same.
End.

 

[Roronoa-sama]

Queen recognized sanji as second, why do You think he had the bigger bounty in top poster

Queen has coo

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That's not the point.
The point was that Sanji despite not training was only 20 dourikis below Zoro, or around a 1% weaker.
So -> Timeskip -> both trained -> doesnt matter how and with who -> the difference will be the same.
End.

Dont lie doriki it's not good indicative of power level

 

[PurpleSwordsman]

Dont lie doriki it's not good indicative of power level

It is.
Another thing is that you don't like it since it proves that Zoro and Sanji are in the same tier with Zoro only being a bit stronger than him and that destroys your headcanon.
Deal with it

 

[Erkan12]

Sanji has 330 million bounty, Zoro has 320 million bounty.

In terms of bounty, Zoro gets the benefit of being Luffy's crew member, otherwise his bounty would be even lower than 320 million.

If Zoro was not Luffy's crew member, Zoro couldn't even be a Supernova 2 years ago and he wouldn't be recognized as Worst Generation member. Same as Killer.

So stop playing that against Sanji, when Zoro couldn't be a Supernova / Worst Generation member without Luffy's help. The only reason Zoro is a Worst Generation member is because he got his bounty earlier than Sanji thanks to being Luffy's underling, but Sanji still surpassed Zoro's bounty.

 

[Jo_Ndule]

It always put sanji in the same level than zoro but the reallity it's both doesn't have same level and representative, it's only humuristic representative as another crew( like shanks and buggy).
Example why sanji doesn't have the same representative? would be several like:
1) Zoro is a worstgen and he has been able to defeat with realitive ease (Hawkins, Killer and appo)
2) Zoro was reconazied as Vic for many character (Uroge, Queen, Bartolo...)
3) zoro humiliated Pika and was stopped by a admiral while sanji was destroyed by vergo and doffi

Where did he beat Hawkins? Never happened. It's Law who beat him.
Where did he beat Apoo 1 v 1?
And he only beat nerfed Killer

 

[Fleet Leader Fenaker]

Sanji got tailed by Zoan form drake meanwhile Zoro had Hybrid drake in shook

 

[Roronoa-sama]

Sanji has 330 million bounty, Zoro has 320 million bounty.

In terms of bounty, Zoro gets the benefit of being Luffy's crew member, otherwise his bounty would be even lower than 320 million.

If Zoro was not Luffy's crew member, Zoro couldn't even be a Supernova 2 years ago and he wouldn't be recognized as Worst Generation member. Same as Killer.

So stop playing that against Sanji, when Zoro couldn't be a Supernova / Worst Generation member without Luffy's help. The only reason Zoro is a Worst Generation member is because he got his bounty earlier than Sanji, but Sanji still surpassed Zoro's bounty.

Luffy will be death if zoro isn't in crew

 

[HA001]

That's not the point.
The point was that Sanji despite not training was only 20 dourikis below Zoro, or around a 1% weaker.
So -> Timeskip -> both trained -> doesnt matter how and with who -> the difference will be the same.
End.

Thats not sanji or zoros doriki though is it.
Thats kaku and jabras
and doriki is JUST physical strength.
sanji was never on their level
of course it matters how they trained
thats why theres only 2 ryou users on the crew right now the only 2 shown training and they will be the 2 to fight kaido
sanji is not one.

Sanji has 330 million bounty, Zoro has 320 million bounty.

In terms of bounty, Zoro gets the benefit of being Luffy's crew member, otherwise his bounty would be even lower than 320 million.

If Zoro was not Luffy's crew member, Zoro couldn't even be a Supernova 2 years ago and he wouldn't be recognized as Worst Generation member. Same as Killer.

So stop playing that against Sanji, when Zoro couldn't be a Supernova / Worst Generation member without Luffy's help. The only reason Zoro is a Worst Generation member is because he got his bounty earlier than Sanji thanks to being Luffy's underling, but Sanji still surpassed Zoro's bounty.

Zoro got his bounty to 120 mil off his own back, luffy wasnt a big enough name for that

meanwhile sanjis bounty post skip increases are canonically from
luffy
judge
and the vinsmoke name.

 

[Erkan12]

Without Luffy, Zoro wouldn't even be a pirate, and he couldn't even reach the Grand Line on his own and he would be lost.

Luffy is ok even without his crew, look what he did in marineford, impel down, and what he did with half crew in Whole Cake Island against Katakuri and Big mom pirates. Luffy is a natural leader, he can always find the people who can assist him.