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On the subject of Mouten w/ historical spoilers, I was thinking about Mouten’s future accomplishments the other day:

So historically, Mouten actually pushed the Xiongnu pretty much out of China lol. This is quite interesting when you consider that the Xiongnu have been such a powerful presence in Zhao for the entire manga, even Riboku didn’t completely push them out of Zhao, he just defeated them so horrifically that they fled to the far north.

Does this mean Hara will set Mouten up to eventually surpass Riboku himself?
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Maybe. I think both EOS Mouten and Riboku will be close, I think both will be in Kingdom's top 5 military minds eos (along with SHK, Prime Gouhoumei, Gokei, Karin and Koshou/Rinshoujou)

. Mouten will obviously never be able to touch Riboku martially imo tho.

We know that Riboku went up against the Xiongnu with a significant number disadvantage too.

Considering how Qin always has a number disadvantage, I can see Mouten also having less men than the Xiongu if the battle gets adapted in the manga. Wouldn't be surprised if Mouten's victory gets directly compared to Riboku's.

Another interesting detail is that both of their historical fates are very similar to each others....

I think Riboku>=Prime Mouten is a safe bet for now, but Kingdom seems to heavily push New Generation>Old, as shown from Moubu surpassing Oukotsu martially.

lol, Riboku and Mouten do share tons of similarities together now that i think about it.
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Of course. Qin will integrate
The world famed
The heavily respected
Great General Futei into their ranks
:hohoho:
:crazwhat: his sworn rival Ryuusen is also going to become a GG.
 
I think both will be in Kingdom's top 5 military minds eos (along with SHK, Prime Gouhoumei, Gokei, Karin and Koshou/Rinshoujou)


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Ya know, Mouten is extremely underrated.

Mougou called him the most talented man the Mou family has ever produced (he said this straight to Moubu’s face lol)

Shouheikun said that he could not grasp Mouten’s true potential

Banyou stated he was Qin 6 level when he was only a 5000 MC (bias but still)

And Ousen was drooling over Mouten, and it actually takes a lot for Ousen to want you in his army lol.
 


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Ya know, Mouten is extremely underrated.

Mougou called him the most talented man the Mou family has ever produced (he said this straight to Moubu’s face lol)

Shouheikun said that he could not grasp Mouten’s true potential

Banyou stated he was Qin 6 level when he was only a 5000 MC (bias but still)

And Ousen was drooling over Mouten, and it actually takes a lot for Ousen to want you in his army lol.
:nicagesmile: Can't believe I forgot Ousen lol.

1. Riboku. 2. Ousen. 3. Mouten. 4. Rinshoujou. 5. Gouhoumei then imo as top 5 Kingdom military minds EOS.

About Mouten, yeah he's very capable. I like to think that strategical generals like Riboku/Rinshoujou/Gokei waged war the same way 3000/4000/5000 man commander Mouten did.

Historically, Mouten didn't have as many achievements against enemy states as Ouhon/Shin did. Hara will 100% insert him into historical battles, like the Han and Zhao invasions for example


Considering how Mouten also was defeated by Shouheikun and Kouen during Shin's first attempted invasion of Chu, I 100% expect Mouten to be one of the stars of the Chu arc, alongside Moubu, Shin, Ousen, Shouheikun and Kouen.

Mouten will likely take Shouheikun's place after the unification of China too imo.
 
Riboku, Ousen, Mouten, Shouheikun, Gouhoumei/Rinshoujou/Karin/Gokei/Koshou.

:moonwalk: Didn't miss anyone this time.
I’ll allow it, even though you didn’t mention


Also, I understand why he’s not included in most IQ discussions, because he lacks traditional military knowledge,

But I would argue that Duke Hyou, in his own unique way, can defeat anyone you’ve mentioned lol.
 
Renpa is actually fighting for Chu confirmed. @TheKnightOfTheSea @Owl Ki I’m telling you guys, get ready for my Renpa prediction to come to pass. Hara is putting all of the pieces into place lol.
What is your prediction about Renpa, Lee?

Don't forget Kouyoku, and being a large state Hara is gonna add a lot of fictional only generals unrelated to history like Karin :crazwhat:
Huh, Karin is 100% fictional and never appeared in history?
Thought she is gonna be another guy in real life turned into female character like Yotanwa..
 
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