You just don't get it, By saying my "ideology" is problematic is saying you hate me
Mate.. you are not your ideology. Your ideology might be toxic, but you are not stuck with it. Everyone can change.


So sorry you can't understand "my" perspective.
I do understand your perspective. I was like you once. Well, not as hatefull, but close. I know why you think the way you are. The only thing I don't know (or can't manage) is to make you think the way I do. I guess each pathway is different for each persons.

Your ideology has much more hate in it, stop lying to yourself.
Well, prove it. Where do you see hate in my ideology ?
 
Mate.. you are not your ideology. Your ideology might be toxic, but you are not stuck with it. Everyone can change.



I do understand your perspective. I was like you once. Well, not as hatefull, but close. I know why you think the way you are. The only thing I don't know (or can't manage) is to make you think the way I do. I guess each pathway is different for each persons.


Well, prove it. Where do you see hate in my ideology ?
Bub you can only talk in circles. You think you actually know, but you don't. It's obviously clear about that when all you can say is it's toxic, You talk about it with only Negatives etc. If you were objective you could see the many, actual, benefits and positives instead. Nothing in this world is perfect, trying to remake the world in your ugly image of what it should be. Do you know how many times that's been tried before one way or another? It's the people who already hold some amount of power, going against the will of the people for their own benefit, Authoritarian, Dictatorial people. The what's good for the few over what's good for the many. It's just a new breed of selfishness. Get over it.
 
You think you actually know, but you don't.
If that makes you feel better.

It's obviously clear about that when all you can say is it's toxic
Toxic is my go to. I could explain in detail why far right ideas are bad, but you would not listen or maybe don't understand. But when I say "its toxic", you understand and you try to say that is not the case or that I'm ignorant. This means that what I say actually as an impact and an effect.

The next step is for you to ask why its toxic, and I might developp. But I won't do that meaninglessly, I would only lose time. If you want a bit of explanations, I've created a library where everything is pretty much explained. From anti-capitalism, through feminism to antiracism and antifascism, you should have enough - if you are open minded - to understand my thinking.

Until you do that, I'll keep the term "toxic".


You talk about it with only Negatives etc. If you were objective you could see the many, actual, benefits and positives instead.
There is ABSOLUTELY NO benefits and positives in far right or conservative ideologies, because when we are on the far right of the political spectrum:

<<- We are stuck in a constant state of fear of the unknown and change which is demoralizing
- We don't understand feminism so we can't understand how healthy relationship with women work (even if we think we do, we don't)
- We are stuck in defending a system that is oppressing the working class and the only explanation we have can only put us toward the path of hating or looking with contempt people in misery (look at what is doing Herrera) EVEN when we are part of the working class ourself, which mean that we are in a loop of hate against ourself, and hate against governements and we can't help but legitimate the capitalistic system that is oppressing us.
- We are in a constant state of contradiction and we are always trying to adjust our thoughts, but since it depends of the context, we always contradict ourselfs
- We are stuck in a constant circle of fear and hate in front of people that are outside the heteronormative norms. We don't understand them and in a way, we don't really understand ourselves. Which is frustrating since we see them happy. But we can't allow ourself to feel because that's not the right way to do things. So we are even more angry and even more miserable.
- We think we are oppressed by people on the left, people who are supposed to be the good guys. This creates a constant state of anger against leftist that comes from a simple place of ignorance. Because if they are right, it means that we are wrong. And that's something that far rightist can't accept.
- We are not Nazi, but we don't want white to disappear but we are not white supremacist but we don't want muslim to impose their religion of hate but we are tolerant with religion but we don't like people out of the norm but we are friendly but some people's identity is BS but we are the scientific ones but social sciences are pseudoscience but we are realist but climate change is not real but we don't want poor people to be poor but some people deserve more than others to be rich but we are not farrightist but Donald Trump is right. Etc. >>

Being a far rightist sucks. Trust me on that, I went through there. In fact I when through ALL the strats of the political scale between the far right and where I'm now and the moment I started to accept that I was wrong and got rid of those rightist BS concepts and beliefs, I improved my mental strenght at EVERY points.

Mate.. Being a leftist kinda rocks.

We know who we are, we hate no one, we are not afraid of trans, homo, muslims, jews or non binary people, we understand why people are acting the way they do, we are not afraid of our emotions, we are not afraid of being out of the norm, we know our real political ennemies, we are not afraid of women or men for that matter, we are not afraid of positive change, we stand STRONG in your beliefs, we stand for the oppressed which feels actually good, we have ZERO contradictions in our beliefs, we have a just fight, we believe in science which means that we are those who understand the nature of reality the best, we are not afraid of getting rid of our beliefs if necessary, we are not afraid of being wrong, we are not afraid of ourselves or other people (at least if we are a man), we are not stuck by a patriarcal box. Yes, we are angry against the system and those in power or bigoted people sometimes, but that anger does not come from hate, it comes from love, so we remain free and in full understanding.

What I feel as a leftist right now, is close to what some Buddhists monks are calling "bodhi", translated "the enlightement" or "awakening" in English. Through knowledge and self centering, I feel at peace with myself and the world, EVEN without being really happy because mentally attacked by an illness. That's how strong the feeling is and that's also one of the reasons why I want to share it so much. It simply feels good to be a real leftist. And you know what ? I know that I could feel even better and go even further beyond if I actually took the time to learn more about the world.

I went through far rightism (or at least semi far rightist ideas) once before. I would cut both my arms and legs before going back to this panicking state. I was not sick and yet I was miserable, completely ignorant and a real jerk since I was not understanding the world around me.

If you think you don't like me now, wait until you see how you will look at your pastself after becoming like me.
 
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Man, this guy is a fucking riot. Say what you will about C4N, but you’ll never find this level of retardation in this forum.

Well, him and Lerrera.
Cry. I'm backed up by science, data and logic. All you can do is trash talk others. That's your limit.
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When the owner class can lobby(called corruption and bribing in every other country) the Government into removing regulation so that they can acquire more capital, it really sounds like a Government problem.
And when they do the opposite to PUT regulation so their competition gets out of bussiness?
 
He's just an insignificant flea. Don't bother, What he says has even lesser value than C4N.
LMAO

The fact that you use terms such as “flea” tells me everything I need to know about you, you absolute cringe lord.
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Cry. I'm backed up by science, data and logic. All you can do is trash talk others. That's your limit.
You barely know how to write, let alone understand the basic functions of government and geopolitics. I’ve never seen you make a valid point in my life, all the things you’ve ever said are standard talking points from 4chan and twitter.

Even in this community (which skews heavily to the right) you’re seen as a brain dead weirdo and a sorry excuse of a troll.
 
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Taxes Are a Sickness
And when they do the opposite to PUT regulation so their competition gets out of bussiness?
Guy what're you talking about....the very nature of captialism is to extract captial from others to increase your wealth. It greatly benefits the owner class who can easily extract wealth from the worker class which creates bigger wealth disparity. The purpose of regulation is to limit inflation, lobbying, monopolies, and wealth disparity, and Government is what applies these regulations in the first place.
 
Well, now I'm curious. How can a mental disability be offensive ?
If Al doesn’t want to talk about it then let it be. Not trying to be rude here but there are more serious disabilities. I don’t lack sympathy or empathy for you in your condition but you’re better off than most disabled people and I hope you find the strength to navigate through your own problems.
 
Not trying to be rude here but there are more serious disabilities. I don’t lack sympathy or empathy for you in your condition but you’re better off than most disabled people
You are completely right, although I would cut my own two legs if I could to get out of my current situation, there are indeed more serious disabilities, some are literaly hell on earth. In fact in some ways, what I live does not even compare to 5% of what are living some people. But if I remember correctly, I've never compared myself to anyone or tried to say that my disability was worse than others.

So my question is perfectly legitimate here and your unsolicited comparison is problematic.
 
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You are completely right, although I would cut my own two legs if I could to get out of my current situation, there are indeed more serious disabilities, some are literaly hell on earth. In fact in some ways, what I live does not even compare to 5% of what are living some people. But if I remember correctly, I've never compared myself to anyone or tried to say that my disability was worse than others.

So my question is perfectly legitimate here and your unsolicited comparison is problematic.
Imagine having lived like Polio Paul, RIP.
 
You are completely right, although I would cut my own two legs if I could to get out of my current situation, there are indeed more serious disabilities, some are literaly hell on earth. In fact in some ways, what I live does not even compare to 5% of what are living some people. But if I remember correctly, I've never compared myself to anyone or tried to say that my disability was worse than others.

So my question is perfectly legitimate here and your unsolicited comparison is problematic.
It’s not, Al has talked about his personal struggles here before but it’s not my place to get into it. Just trying to get you to understand why he might be offended by you classifying yourself.
 
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