Character Discussion Gunko's identity theory (connection to Kid)

#1
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I believe HK "Gunko" may have an identity hidden beneath her name and mask, due to a few key reasons.

1. Only Holy Knight not even bearing a surname to show she belongs to a noble family. 2. No "world noble" title in both of her character boxes. 3. Different coloured eyes, can symbolise how she has somehow been changed from whoever she once was. 4. Masks herself with bandages.
https://x.com/Shimyyon/status/1884066504825790670/photo/1


It is also intriguing how Gunko acts so emotional when torturing Loki, to the point that Shamrock has to tell her to stop. She's so focused on how being made a holy knight is such a marvellous life-changing "miracle" She's very aware how contrasting these 2 different lives are..




Which would befit if she's actually lived through both lives herself. This emotional dialogue towards Loki may be projection on her behalf. This is why it can be envisioned "Gunko" was also transformed from an ordinary woman and made into a Celestial Dragon, like York as well.
PART 2, "Gunko's" Connection to Eustass Kid I also believe that "Gunko" is none other than "Victoria Shiruton Doruyanaika", the girl Eustass Kid one-sidingly loved and believed to have died. She is significant enough that Oda has continued to mention her, in 3 different SBS.
















..Until the grand heterochromia reveal later, for this other black eye, as if THIS is the one that's unnatural, for one reason or another.
- Both have harsh personalities. According to Oda, Victoria was so furious that Kid laughed at her spilling curry udon on herself, that she beat him up and never talked to him again. Both "Gunko" nor Victoria appreciate laughter at them, or any disrespectfulness for that matter.










Something that may have affected Victoria's change into "Gunko" is her devil fruit. If she's gone through some sort of brainwashing, then this exact fruit is a prime thing to do it with. Gunko has successfully been made to believe wherever these arrows direct to, is her destiny.









Despite Kid loving Victoria, he and her did not end off with each other on good terms. She never talked to him again. Kid meeting her as having become a villain would be a very meaningful and significant impact on his character.
It would be fitting now that the Victoria Punk has been destroyed, for Kid to now meet the current Gunko who has also killed the "Victoria" from his memory too. Of course it wouldn't make sense for Kid to have a ship like "Victoria Punk" anymore, with her now made into an enemy.


PART 3, Shamrock's Connection to Eustass Kid Besides the main characters and Bonney who already just had her own arc, Kid/Killer are the only other Worst Generation members in Elbaph. Thus, Kid will likely be developed as a character further in this arc.
If we already know that Shamrock is someone that Kid would have strong emotions for, why not go more than just halfway, and have him be connected to both of these antagonists? As for the major villains of Egghead, they were Kizaru & Saturn.
And the Supernova who got spotlight in that arc, Bonney, was clearly given connections to both of these two major antagonists. Not just one. We know it's some gang that "killed Victoria", but what if Shamrock was pulling the strings? Shamrock/Kidd can be what Doffy was to Law.
Dofamingo had presence in the story for a long time before we even knew he had anything to do with Law. This may be what Shanks/Shamrock embody, completing the parallel in Kid's past.













There's precedence for the holy knights to dispatch people, from this panel. Perhaps Shamrock sabotaged Kid's island by dispatching agents to instigate conflicts, or even this "top gang" in question, to try & take over Kid's unaffiliated island by force. Just like here in Elbaph.
However, Shamrock and the WG underestimated someone as strong as Kid was on this measly little South Blue island, and how he had the strength and tenacity to round up his rivals Heat, Wire, etc to overthrow the figures they had tried planting there.



It seems almost too convenient that Elbaph is an unaffiliated island just like Kid's own island, and now the holy knights also want to take over this island by force. It would be so ironic and meaningful for Kid if the present Victoria is playing a part in this.









Alongside the very same "Shanks" that Kid wrongfully thought he had seen involved in what was happening on his island, back then. This may have been the catalyst to Kid's hatred and how he originally was only targeting Shanks, before he ever even lost an arm.
If Gunko hadn't teleported into Elbaph with Shamrock, no result or event in the story would have played out differently so far. Shamrock would've gotten the key and Loki's whereabouts from the guards just fine by himself. He would have tortured Loki into unconsciousness as well.
There must be more to Gunko, here on Elbaph. That is why I make my next proposition, how Gunko and Shamrock are not just an arbitrary duo, their bond goes a bit further. What if Shamrock found the allegedly dead Victoria, and took her in due to seeing some sort of potential?
Thereby trafficking her, and raising her into becoming "Gunko". (Similar to what we’ve seen Mother Carmel do in the past). Victoria was strong enough to beat up both Kid and Killer. Kid and Killer must have had some reason to take a liking to her.
Victoria's strength in their violent island may have been one of her charming traits. If Shamrock had really transformed Victoria into the holy knight Gunko, he would be similar to his own father Garling, who assumed York as his own direct subordinate. Like father, like son.
This whole revelation would mean Shamrock is either indirectly or directly responsible for igniting Kid's journey into becoming a pirate, paralleling how his twin brother Shanks also kickstarted Luffy's journey.


 
#7
https://x.com/Shimyyon/status/1884066490435133884
I believe HK "Gunko" may have an identity hidden beneath her name and mask, due to a few key reasons.

1. Only Holy Knight not even bearing a surname to show she belongs to a noble family. 2. No "world noble" title in both of her character boxes. 3. Different coloured eyes, can symbolise how she has somehow been changed from whoever she once was. 4. Masks herself with bandages.
https://x.com/Shimyyon/status/1884066504825790670/photo/1


It is also intriguing how Gunko acts so emotional when torturing Loki, to the point that Shamrock has to tell her to stop. She's so focused on how being made a holy knight is such a marvellous life-changing "miracle" She's very aware how contrasting these 2 different lives are..




Which would befit if she's actually lived through both lives herself. This emotional dialogue towards Loki may be projection on her behalf. This is why it can be envisioned "Gunko" was also transformed from an ordinary woman and made into a Celestial Dragon, like York as well.
PART 2, "Gunko's" Connection to Eustass Kid I also believe that "Gunko" is none other than "Victoria Shiruton Doruyanaika", the girl Eustass Kid one-sidingly loved and believed to have died. She is significant enough that Oda has continued to mention her, in 3 different SBS.
















..Until the grand heterochromia reveal later, for this other black eye, as if THIS is the one that's unnatural, for one reason or another.
- Both have harsh personalities. According to Oda, Victoria was so furious that Kid laughed at her spilling curry udon on herself, that she beat him up and never talked to him again. Both "Gunko" nor Victoria appreciate laughter at them, or any disrespectfulness for that matter.










Something that may have affected Victoria's change into "Gunko" is her devil fruit. If she's gone through some sort of brainwashing, then this exact fruit is a prime thing to do it with. Gunko has successfully been made to believe wherever these arrows direct to, is her destiny.









Despite Kid loving Victoria, he and her did not end off with each other on good terms. She never talked to him again. Kid meeting her as having become a villain would be a very meaningful and significant impact on his character.
It would be fitting now that the Victoria Punk has been destroyed, for Kid to now meet the current Gunko who has also killed the "Victoria" from his memory too. Of course it wouldn't make sense for Kid to have a ship like "Victoria Punk" anymore, with her now made into an enemy.


PART 3, Shamrock's Connection to Eustass Kid Besides the main characters and Bonney who already just had her own arc, Kid/Killer are the only other Worst Generation members in Elbaph. Thus, Kid will likely be developed as a character further in this arc.
If we already know that Shamrock is someone that Kid would have strong emotions for, why not go more than just halfway, and have him be connected to both of these antagonists? As for the major villains of Egghead, they were Kizaru & Saturn.
And the Supernova who got spotlight in that arc, Bonney, was clearly given connections to both of these two major antagonists. Not just one. We know it's some gang that "killed Victoria", but what if Shamrock was pulling the strings? Shamrock/Kidd can be what Doffy was to Law.
Dofamingo had presence in the story for a long time before we even knew he had anything to do with Law. This may be what Shanks/Shamrock embody, completing the parallel in Kid's past.













There's precedence for the holy knights to dispatch people, from this panel. Perhaps Shamrock sabotaged Kid's island by dispatching agents to instigate conflicts, or even this "top gang" in question, to try & take over Kid's unaffiliated island by force. Just like here in Elbaph.
However, Shamrock and the WG underestimated someone as strong as Kid was on this measly little South Blue island, and how he had the strength and tenacity to round up his rivals Heat, Wire, etc to overthrow the figures they had tried planting there.



It seems almost too convenient that Elbaph is an unaffiliated island just like Kid's own island, and now the holy knights also want to take over this island by force. It would be so ironic and meaningful for Kid if the present Victoria is playing a part in this.









Alongside the very same "Shanks" that Kid wrongfully thought he had seen involved in what was happening on his island, back then. This may have been the catalyst to Kid's hatred and how he originally was only targeting Shanks, before he ever even lost an arm.
If Gunko hadn't teleported into Elbaph with Shamrock, no result or event in the story would have played out differently so far. Shamrock would've gotten the key and Loki's whereabouts from the guards just fine by himself. He would have tortured Loki into unconsciousness as well.
There must be more to Gunko, here on Elbaph. That is why I make my next proposition, how Gunko and Shamrock are not just an arbitrary duo, their bond goes a bit further. What if Shamrock found the allegedly dead Victoria, and took her in due to seeing some sort of potential?
Thereby trafficking her, and raising her into becoming "Gunko". (Similar to what we’ve seen Mother Carmel do in the past). Victoria was strong enough to beat up both Kid and Killer. Kid and Killer must have had some reason to take a liking to her.
Victoria's strength in their violent island may have been one of her charming traits. If Shamrock had really transformed Victoria into the holy knight Gunko, he would be similar to his own father Garling, who assumed York as his own direct subordinate. Like father, like son.
This whole revelation would mean Shamrock is either indirectly or directly responsible for igniting Kid's journey into becoming a pirate, paralleling how his twin brother Shanks also kickstarted Luffy's journey.


It's obviously what Oda intends to do here

Shamrock kicked off Kid's journey by ruining his life
Shanks kicked off Luffy's journey by saving his life

Gunko = Sabo
Someone once thought dead but is actually alive
Sabo(a noble kid) got saved by Dragon and raised to be a revo
Gunko (a commoner) got taken by Shamrock and raised to be a God's Knight
 
#13
All I know is Sanji is going to let her beat him into pulp in purpose then she questions him for not doing anything. He will say "I can see through your pain, i'm going to save you".

You know what will happen next when she sees hope from hearing him because her eyes says it all when Sommarizaru showed up.

 
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