Speculations I think either Kidd or Zoro will be the first to be taken out the fight

Zoro said once "im here to slash Kaido"
Luffy said he was going to defeat Kaido that still hasn't happened yet so he must have also failed to keep his words as well right
In this arc alone... he failed to keep his own statements :
Round up samurai
This is still very likely to happen since Kaido is bringing Onigashima to Wano and the Flower capital
avenge Yasu by beating Orochi
Hiyori interrupted him saying she wanted to do it herself Orochi was so worthless he got his head cut off. Kaido has always been the real danger.
He would have but was told about how much that sword meant to the people of Wano of course Zoro would return it considering how honorable he is. He also did get another sword of the same grade
At DR, he couldn't Cut birdcage and everything
Luffy couldn't punch through the birdcage even Fujitora an admiral resorted to pushing it thanks to Zoro brilliant idea which ended up saving thousands of people.
Zoro isn't gonna cut off Kaido's head or beat him.
He doesn't need to as long as he can severely injure kaido maybe defeat King it's all good
He's just like Retainers...None of them will beat Kaido
Zoro will be doing far more than all the retainers combined
Luffy, Kidd and Law are the ones to bring down Kaido in act 4.
Kid and Law won't outshine or do more than Zoro in this fight he is the most equipped among them to deal with the yonkos.
Zoro and Killer are sidekicks who will be out.
Just don't shift the goal posts once Zoro is the last one standing alongside Luffy:cheers:
 
Just don't shift the goal posts once Zoro is the last one standing alongside Luffy:cheers:
He won’t be. Kidd will, don’t sleep on him. The final ones standing will be the 4 conquerers Luffy, Kidd, Kaido, and Big Mom. Or maybe 3 if Big Mom leaves the battle early. After everyone else is out of the way they will have a big conquerers haki clash and finish up the battle. Of course this will be after Zoro, Law, and Killer do significant damage to weaken the yonko.
 
Why wouldnt she be? Sure, the 5 on the dome are elevated than the rest but there are more of them who deserve to be up there.
Sanji above Killer? Oh boy... Here we go again. :myman:


When Oda decided who becomes Supernova, Sanji wasnt worthy.
Bounty indeed represents strength, when it is updated to represent the right amount.
Funny you mention bounties.... yet somehow, twist it when it comes to current bounty of Sanji being higher than Killer and Zoro, and more supernova.... just ironic how we focus in one point, and ignore at another point LOL
 
Funny you mention bounties.... yet somehow, twist it when it comes to current bounty of Sanji being higher than Killer and Zoro, and more supernova.... just ironic how we focus in one point, and ignore at another point LOL
nik "when it is updated to represent the right amount." current bounty of sanji is higher because of plot and not his performance. Imagine being absent at DR , baking a cake and receive a raise of +253 millions :lusalty:
 
nik "when it is updated to represent the right amount." current bounty of sanji is higher because of plot and not his performance. Imagine being absent at DR , baking a cake and receive a raise of +253 millions :lusalty:
No, Sanji's bounty represent his actions as being involved in the plot of ruining the wedding and assassination plot and other actions

It's your own interpretation based on Sanji's own insecurity for his bounty having "Vinsmoke name" in it that you guys wanna interpret it that way... but the reality, Sanji's bounty came because of what was said in the newspaper, by MORGANS to be more precise, and Morgans NEVER stated that Sanji's bounty is because he is Vinsmoke... however, he mentioned his name among the important names involved in the incident for ruining the wedding and assassination plot.

But all what you guys do is just again, focus on one part, and ignoring another... and you only focus on the negative side for Sanji... which shows how you miss the whole view
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
No, Sanji's bounty represent his actions as being involved in the plot of ruining the wedding and assassination plot and other actions

It's your own interpretation based on Sanji's own insecurity for his bounty having "Vinsmoke name" in it that you guys wanna interpret it that way... but the reality, Sanji's bounty came because of what was said in the newspaper, by MORGANS to be more precise, and Morgans NEVER stated that Sanji's bounty is because he is Vinsmoke... however, he mentioned his name among the important names involved in the incident for ruining the wedding and assassination plot.

But all what you guys do is just again, focus on one part, and ignoring another... and you only focus on the negative side for Sanji... which shows how you miss the whole view
no
jinbes name was mentioned in that report too wasnt it
his bounty didnt increase
 
J

Jo_Ndule

No, Sanji's bounty represent his actions as being involved in the plot of ruining the wedding and assassination plot and other actions

It's your own interpretation based on Sanji's own insecurity for his bounty having "Vinsmoke name" in it that you guys wanna interpret it that way... but the reality, Sanji's bounty came because of what was said in the newspaper, by MORGANS to be more precise, and Morgans NEVER stated that Sanji's bounty is because he is Vinsmoke... however, he mentioned his name among the important names involved in the incident for ruining the wedding and assassination plot.

But all what you guys do is just again, focus on one part, and ignoring another... and you only focus on the negative side for Sanji... which shows how you miss the whole view
They confuse post DR bounty with post WCU bounty

Judge had nothing to do with Sanji's post wci bounty increase
It was all because Sanji was one of the main players
 
No, Sanji's bounty represent his actions as being involved in the plot of ruining the wedding and assassination plot and other actions

It's your own interpretation based on Sanji's own insecurity for his bounty having "Vinsmoke name" in it that you guys wanna interpret it that way... but the reality, Sanji's bounty came because of what was said in the newspaper, by MORGANS to be more precise, and Morgans NEVER stated that Sanji's bounty is because he is Vinsmoke... however, he mentioned his name among the important names involved in the incident for ruining the wedding and assassination plot.

But all what you guys do is just again, focus on one part, and ignoring another... and you only focus on the negative side for Sanji... which shows how you miss the whole view
I am saying this again. He received his raise because of plot and not performance.
What assassination ? We are not from OP world to don't know what actually happened. He didn't want to kill BM that's a fact. He didn't ... and ruin the wedding? What he did actually? Killed BM ? Ate the cake ? Broke the picture of that nun ?
He did absolutely nothing beside hurting his own captain and saved his crew because of a cake. Did he defeat someone ? Oh kicked bobbins, deserving 153 millions. So why 95% of sanji fans are not happy with WCI if he truly shined ?

And what about DR ? Why did he received a raise of 100millions when the others received just 50 millions ? Yes because of his daddy.
Why he and Luffy only received again another raise and not the others ? Because Morgan didn't see the others doing something? As if navy saw the curly hats doing something at DR ...

It's a fact he received his raise because of the others SHP at DR, a fact that his daddy raised + 50 millions and asked to catch him only alive. At the end, he again got a raise for an assination which he never wanted to do and lastly for his name Vinsmoke that he even said "because of germa."

Any sanji fan should be ashamed for how his bounty got raised but i guess as long he has more than zoro, it's enough for his fans lol.
Insecurities ? Not really, oda made him say that because oda knew that was illogical and wanted him to troll zoro. was just a troll by Oda, you know why ? Because it's not the guy with has 330 millions who appeared for 1000th chapter with the following line "they are the strongest pirates of this next generation" but it was killer and zoro.

They confuse post DR bounty with post WCU bounty

Judge had nothing to do with Sanji's post wci bounty increase
It was all because Sanji was one of the main players
Oh I see so what sanji is saying here ? Ffs learn to read.

 
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nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
Funny you mention bounties.... yet somehow, twist it when it comes to current bounty of Sanji being higher than Killer and Zoro, and more supernova.... just ironic how we focus in one point, and ignore at another point LOL
No, I dont twist anything. You are playing ignorant trying to sell me that you dont know why Sanji got 2 increases despite showing no proof of strength. His last bounty representing combat ability is 77mil. His current bounty being higher than that of Supernovas doesnt make him into a Supernova, he is 2 years+ too late to be part of that group.
 
No, I dont twist anything. You are playing ignorant trying to sell me that you dont know why Sanji got 2 increases despite showing no proof of strength. His last bounty representing combat ability is 77mil. His current bounty being higher than that of Supernovas doesnt make him into a Supernova, he is 2 years+ too late to be part of that group.
He showed proof of strength by clashing with 2 veterans of 300 mil bounty, Oven/Daifuku
And he was going toe to toe. And escaped assassination attempt by Katakuri, the most effective commander on BMPs

Morgans saw fit to hype him
 
He showed proof of strength by clashing with 2 veterans of 300 mil bounty, Oven/Daifuku
And he was going toe to toe. And escaped assassination attempt by Katakuri, the most effective commander on BMPs

Morgans saw fit to hype him
Morgans didn't hype him for shit. He only mentioned his names along side Jinbei and Bege.
Your boi himself admitted that his bounty only went up because of the Germa affiliation. End of story.
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
He showed proof of strength by clashing with 2 veterans of 300 mil bounty, Oven/Daifuku
And he was going toe to toe. And escaped assassination attempt by Katakuri, the most effective commander on BMPs

Morgans saw fit to hype him
lol, none of that is proof of strength, just you reaching for crumbs because Sanji has nothing better.
 
just ironic how we focus in one point, and ignore at another point LOL
its not ironic. you just do not know what context is.
view Sanjis bounty in context and its clear that its a wash.

He showed proof of strength by clashing with 2 veterans of 300 mil bounty, Oven/Daifuku
the moment you have to use the word "clash" or any form of it to measure a characters skill you may aswell not do it.
Sanji in the new world has nothing substantial to show for and that is a fact.
oh wait. he kicked his defenseless friend in the face. that ought to bring him up to high high tier, right?

I know it is frustrating that Zoro and Killer are on the roof with Kidd, Law and Luffy while Sanji is doing irrelevant nonsense.
learn to deal with it. these threads will only make it worse later on.
 
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