General & Others If Kaido wasn't an emperor 20 or so years ago. Then doesn't that prove the 4 emperors = warlords/marines statement wrong?
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Marines and walords = 4 yonkou combined, and here is how.
Commander in chief kong= kaidou
Fleet admiral = shanks
Fujitora= linlin
Kizaru= blackbeard
Greenbull= marco
Old garp: katakuri
Old sengoku : king
The 2 new vice admirals that were candidates for admiral position = mihawk and weevil
Boa hancock= old tsuru
All the other vice admirals and warlords= the lower yonkou commanders
Commander in chief kong= kaidou
Fleet admiral = shanks
Fujitora= linlin
Kizaru= blackbeard
Greenbull= marco
Old garp: katakuri
Old sengoku : king
The 2 new vice admirals that were candidates for admiral position = mihawk and weevil
Boa hancock= old tsuru
All the other vice admirals and warlords= the lower yonkou commanders
Gotta love the condescending tone.
1. The raid was a sneak attack against drunk soldiers.
2. Thanks to Tama + Queen the numbers advantage basically became nearly irrelevant.
3. We literally see Luffy, Zoro, Jinbei and Izo complaining about the strength and numbers of the beast pirates.
Its not conjecture. 4 ships and 1600 men aren't taking on 30k beast pirates.
Like its a stomp.
1. The raid was a sneak attack against drunk soldiers.
2. Thanks to Tama + Queen the numbers advantage basically became nearly irrelevant.
3. We literally see Luffy, Zoro, Jinbei and Izo complaining about the strength and numbers of the beast pirates.
Its not conjecture. 4 ships and 1600 men aren't taking on 30k beast pirates.
Like its a stomp.
1. and whitebeard cant plan a sneak attack?
2. "nearly"
3. and they will still win.
most of those 30k are fodder that whitebeard with his huge aoe can probably deal with fairly easily. well, maybe not sick and old whitebeard.
but all of this still doesnt make the allied crews literally part of the WBP.
2. "nearly"
3. and they will still win.
most of those 30k are fodder that whitebeard with his huge aoe can probably deal with fairly easily. well, maybe not sick and old whitebeard.
but all of this still doesnt make the allied crews literally part of the WBP.
1. I mean he can. But its not easy to get to Wano. Its surrounded by massive waterfalls. He canonically opted not to even when healthier
2. Yes. You are talking about 1600 men, many of whom are weak enough to fall to CoC. I don't think we have ever seen a samurai in this battle fall to CoC, suggesting on average a fodder samurai > WB fodder
3. Right. Because of plot and the fact that the alliance is far stronger than the WBP. Ffs, the absolute strongest person fighting for WB was Marco. Otoh, Marco is here in Wano. Zoro, Kid, Law and Yamato are all debatably stronger. The alliance >> WBP. Too many heavy hitters.
There's no evidence Whitebeard can just wipe out 30k beast pirates lol.
2. Yes. You are talking about 1600 men, many of whom are weak enough to fall to CoC. I don't think we have ever seen a samurai in this battle fall to CoC, suggesting on average a fodder samurai > WB fodder
3. Right. Because of plot and the fact that the alliance is far stronger than the WBP. Ffs, the absolute strongest person fighting for WB was Marco. Otoh, Marco is here in Wano. Zoro, Kid, Law and Yamato are all debatably stronger. The alliance >> WBP. Too many heavy hitters.
There's no evidence Whitebeard can just wipe out 30k beast pirates lol.
Personally I think the warlords were established to help the navy fight the explosive number of pirates after Roger execution. Remember this is the great pirate age. Their role has obviously evolved with time and they now form part of the three great powers. And they are allied with Marines it's not hard to see why they are considered to balance out the Emperors (Doesn't matter their number, the emperors themselves are enemies so 6 or 5 won't make a diff).
That balance though is breaking with the rise of Worst alliances and Emperor to Emperor alliances since at any one time the marine hq and warlords could be forced to face a force like Beast and Big mom pirates together.
That balance though is breaking with the rise of Worst alliances and Emperor to Emperor alliances since at any one time the marine hq and warlords could be forced to face a force like Beast and Big mom pirates together.
Why did Whitebeard when healthy never attack the beast pirates? Send a few strong men into Wano for recon. Lol, we literally see Ace do recon in Wano years later.
I'm not saying Whitebeard cant, I'm saying there's no evidence Whitebeard can wipe out 10k samurai, and 20k new world pirates.
Especially when he's going to have a grueling 1 vs 1 against Kaido. Those 1600 men he brings are going to get fucked over by the numbers disadvantage unless they get chopper to cure the virus.
I'm not saying Whitebeard cant, I'm saying there's no evidence Whitebeard can wipe out 10k samurai, and 20k new world pirates.
Especially when he's going to have a grueling 1 vs 1 against Kaido. Those 1600 men he brings are going to get fucked over by the numbers disadvantage unless they get chopper to cure the virus.
When has WB ever been established as someone who attacks others without a reason? His little brother Oden is in Wano and said to leave everything to him. WB knows the true history and the importance of it all.
You implying that WB didn't want any smoke with Kaido when WB also ran away from fodder Marines. Now everything has to be made about power levels.
You implying that WB didn't want any smoke with Kaido when WB also ran away from fodder Marines. Now everything has to be made about power levels.
what can beast pirate army can do when Whitebeard use tsunami attack ?
Maybe kaido need to lift the island again. That it .
‘’Since they are mostly devil fruit people. King have no response against Whitebeard attacks, only to fly away to avoid.
The rest of army got drowned as result by whitebeard attack.
Maybe kaido need to lift the island again. That it .
‘’Since they are mostly devil fruit people. King have no response against Whitebeard attacks, only to fly away to avoid.
The rest of army got drowned as result by whitebeard attack.
Lmao. Its literally established from day 1 that Whitebeard hates when people he cares about get hurt. This extends to friends and people from """"allied"""" crews like Squard as well.
And no, they discussed it, we literally see Marco talking about this in 999.
The reason they didn't was because of how many would lose their lives lol
And no, they discussed it, we literally see Marco talking about this in 999.
The reason they didn't was because of how many would lose their lives lol