Speculations If Kid manages to hurt Kaido,does this mean...

#1
Hello guys,Happy new year to everyone.

So it may be a bit premature but if Kid manages to hurt Kaido/Big mom without any interference from the 4 other sn, does this mean Kid was already stronger than Post Wci Luffy?

Kid doesn't have many feats to speak of nor any great achievements as of now,the only thing noteworthy he did postskip is fighting the emperors and getting seemingly destroyed but since being destroyed is no feat,it really doesn't distinguish him from Post Wci luffy .

Now Kid was at Udon and did some sea stone training but many believe it couldn't have made him jump many tiers and certainly did not give him the means to hurt Kaido

If Kid manages to hurt Kaido/Big mom on his own in the upcoming chapters,does this mean Kid was superior to Luffy from the timeskip and Luffy was just catching up?

Did sea stone training made him jump 3+tiers?
NB: I deliberately ommited Law and Killer because their limits were somehow shown before this raid,Kid and Zoro not but Kid wasn't shown finding a means to hurt Kaido in his training.


Thoughts?
 
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Jo_Ndule

#2
Kidd has a case to be ~ pre Udon Luffy
Since we haven't seen him battle yet
Unlike Law or Zoro.

And all we know that he lost until he collapsed... maybe he landed hits and dodged some hits from kaido but lost in 1 blow/2 blows.
 
#5
Not really, having adv CoA does speak volume, but isnt the only way to scale, Hyogoro has adv CoA so theoretically he could damage Kaido, but in a real 1v1 fight, even Dressrosa luffy would destroy Hyogoro completely. The same with Kinemon, he lost to Law, so Luffy > Law > Kinemon, and we already knew Kinemon could damage Kaido while Pre Udon Luffy couldnt. There are other factors to take in such as durability, endurance, speed, normal CoA, etc
 
#6
Kidd was fighting New World pirates and gaining battle scars for 2 years while Luffy was fighting monkeys on an island. It would make perfect sense if Kidd was stronger than Luffy straight out of the timeskip. Luffy only learned the basics of haki but true growth comes from intense battles. Kidd has been having intense battles for two years.

As for him hurting Kaido, we haven’t seen him have a serious fight on screen yet so it’s just speculation on what he can actually do and if he has advanced haki or not. All I know is Kidd will definitely injure Kaido. Either he has a plan or he already has the requisite haki or skills to damage him. Other than Luffy, him and Killer are the only guys on the roof who have already experienced Kaido’s strength in battle. Killer is a smart guy. He wouldn’t let him and his captain run up there with no plan of actually damaging Kaido just to get wrecked. Kidd might be dumb but not even he is that dumb lol.
 
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HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
#7
Kidd was fighting New World pirates and gaining battle scars for 2 years while Luffy was fighting monkeys on an island. It would make perfect sense if Kidd was stronger than Luffy straight out of the timeskip. Luffy only learned the basics of haki but true growth comes from intense battles. Kidd has been having instense battles for two years.

As for him hurting Kaido, we haven’t seen him have a serious fight on screen yet so it’s just speculation on what he can actually do and if he has advanced haki or not. All I know is Kidd will definitely injure Kaido. Either he has a plan or he already has the requisite haki or skills to damage him. Other than Luffy, him and Killer are the only guys on the roof who have already experienced Kaido’s strength in battle. Killer is a smart guy. He wouldn’t let him and his captain run up there with no plan of actually damaging Kaido just to get wrecked. Kidd might be dumb but not even he is that dumb lol.
Then why were they asking if this was enough scrap metal ?
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
#13
Shit, I don’t know maybe he plans to make a railgun or a mech or something lol. I honestly have no idea what he plans to do with the scrap metal. But he will hurt Kaido or Big Mom using it. You can quote me on that one. Oda didn’t make him run around collecting it for no reason.
Im being serious that wasnt a sarcastic point or anything, you said hes fought kaido and has a plan and thats fine but that exchange doesnt show that. Not to mention stronger force does nothing to kaido if theirs no ryou which opens another can of worms. I guess we will see soon enough.
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
#17
Probably didnt have enough on him last time they fought. Kidd wanna bring as much as possible for round 2
Thats fine but we know you cant hurt kaido without ryou, but i suppose meme is there too.
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Lets not worry about Killer, just Kid. Thats who this about lol
Dont sleep on killer hes fought everyone by kidds side including kaido
 
#19
If he had the right haki he would have hurt kaido the first time
look how luffy just dogged kaido with a g3 attack just cause of that haki
We dnt know he didn’t hurt him the first time...

U didn’t answer my question tho. If Kid has at least barrier haki, that scarp metal should hurt Kaido right??
 
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