Character Discussion If Zoro was stronger than Luffy why is he still following Luffy as his subordinate?
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And? What Luffy can do in 50 hits, Elizabello can do in 1 hit and still cant scratch Pica.
You are fully confident about being insecure that Luffy is not all mighty.
I dont hold it against you tho, some people simply cannot power scale.
Because Luffy's combat has remained the same, ineffective against lots of people.
You are fully confident about being insecure that Luffy is not all mighty.
I dont hold it against you tho, some people simply cannot power scale.
Because Luffy's combat has remained the same, ineffective against lots of people.
As I said, I dont hold it against you that you cant understand why Luffy cant beat Pica or Cracker...
That's fine but Kaido and Pica are two different obstacles and beating one doesnt mean beating the other.
Same as beating Katakuri doesnt mean that Luffy could beat Cracker...
A>B>C never worked in One Piece. Some abilities perfectly cancel out other abilities.
That's fine but Kaido and Pica are two different obstacles and beating one doesnt mean beating the other.
Same as beating Katakuri doesnt mean that Luffy could beat Cracker...
A>B>C never worked in One Piece. Some abilities perfectly cancel out other abilities.
That means nothing to what I've talked about... just you deflecting. You say I can't power scale, don't project yourself onto me. It's pathetic.
Luffy is given enemies that are going to challenge him... once he's beaten them he's not going to be challenge by them again. If he went against Cracker now, the fight would be a 180... he'll know how to deal with him.
We saw that with crocodile... already prepared...
Enough of your shit takes.
Luffy is given enemies that are going to challenge him... once he's beaten them he's not going to be challenge by them again. If he went against Cracker now, the fight would be a 180... he'll know how to deal with him.
We saw that with crocodile... already prepared...
Enough of your shit takes.
Absolutely I don't deny that, but the gap is so exponentially massive that at this stage Luffy would still be supposed to annihilate Pica if a fight occurred, notwithstanding the fact that bypassing his rock body would have been massively harder in the past for him. That being said I'm one of the biggest supporters of the Zoro - Luffy close power level paradigm. In the past I thought Zoro was stronger, today I put them extremely close, possibly favoring Zoro over Luffy, still.
I say you cant power scale because it is a fact, I wasnt debating it.
He cant bypass the rock... Internal destruction doesnt have mountain range... He still has to chop down the mountain hit by hit.
That will not stop Pica, he will be long gone in the ground and reforming the golem. Luffy has to cut him off from the ground, in 1 hit.
Elizebello with King's Punch, the strongest punch in the world by far, is unable to do that.
One Piece will end and Luffy will still be ineffective against Pica, that's how bad of a match-up he is for him.
Improving the strength of his punches simply achieves nothing against people who dont take hits with their own bodies.
Regarding Zoro and Luffy, the author probably wants to treat them as equal through portrayal but he is doing a bad job at it.
Zoro's combat is simply a lot better, as are his feats.
He cant bypass the rock... Internal destruction doesnt have mountain range... He still has to chop down the mountain hit by hit.
That will not stop Pica, he will be long gone in the ground and reforming the golem. Luffy has to cut him off from the ground, in 1 hit.
Elizebello with King's Punch, the strongest punch in the world by far, is unable to do that.
One Piece will end and Luffy will still be ineffective against Pica, that's how bad of a match-up he is for him.
Improving the strength of his punches simply achieves nothing against people who dont take hits with their own bodies.
Regarding Zoro and Luffy, the author probably wants to treat them as equal through portrayal but he is doing a bad job at it.
Zoro's combat is simply a lot better, as are his feats.
I'm inclined to believe that Luffy is capable to destroy that rock pretty fast right now, due the support of his haki powers, but it goes beyond my original point. I didn't imply anything about Luffy v Pica, rather that the best way to compare Current Luffy and Zoro total power level wise was related to their performance against Kaido since Pica is too much of a low hanging fruit more generically.
To be more accurate Kaido + Big Mom *
And also total power level speculation still coming off extrapolation nevertheless.
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To be more accurate Kaido + Big Mom *
And also total power level speculation still coming off extrapolation nevertheless.
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See? I told you that you cannot power scale...
A bunch of people can go through rock and that achieves nothing...
Keep your head buried in the sand and believe that Luffy can do it.
I know more about Luffy's combat than all of Luffy fans together, that's why I read him like an open book.
What's changed about his combat? His punches got stronger? That's what you call change?
A bunch of people can go through rock and that achieves nothing...
Keep your head buried in the sand and believe that Luffy can do it.
Keep talking about Zoro cos you clearly know fuck all about Luffy. How has Luffy's combat remained the same when the last time he fought Pica, he had no FS, Internal Destruction, Snakeman or AdCoC
What's changed about his combat? His punches got stronger? That's what you call change?