Break Week Its funny how Shanks fans say he's not a swordsman...

#41
I saw Film Red, everytime Shanks fought, he did so with his sword. It's not like Law or Whitebeard where they mix their swordskills with devil fruits, everything he did was with his sword. Sorry Shanks fans, stop coping.
well u can mix ur sword with a devil fruit and its still swordsmanship end of the day
 
#44
All I see are air bars and CoC blasts so not swordsmanship :wellwell:
And that was 12 years ago

So the time Shanks fought Mihawk he was already using non-swordsmanship techniques:milaugh:
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Why does Shanks love his sword so much? He isn't a sword maniac like Zoro and Mihawk

「手には愛刀グリフォン。漆黒のマントが王者の風格を際立たせる」との記載もありますが、選ばれし者であるシャンクスの存在をより強調しています。
There is also a description that "He has a beloved sword Griffon. A jet-black cloak accentuates the dignity of a king."
On the bottom left part of the image:
 
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#46
So Shanks is now the Pirate King?
:luuh:
So why do the shanksbros think Luffy has to surpass Shanks then? Gold D. Roger is dead (we dnt know his true strength) and was only named PK because he reached Laugh Tale. If Shanks reach Laugh Tale before luffy, then he should be considered PK, right? Being PK means little when we're power scaling. WB was considered stronger than Gol Roger even though he wasnt the PK. Why Shanks is the focus, because Luffy literally proclaimed he would have a better crew than his idol, and shanks told him to return his hat when he becomes a great pirate. Thats end game, by surpassing shanks, he would become the new pk, so he can fulfill his real dream. Hes actually competing with Shanks now, where we can see Luffy surpassing Shanks, we cant do that with a dead man with only legends to go by.

To make it short, Shanks doesnt need to be PK for Luffy end goal to be, surpassing shanks.
 
#51
Right here below in the Vivre Card databook. Shanks is the unoffical PK
In terms of freedom he is the closest.

But in terms of power, it doesn't apply. You guys fabricated this belief among so called Luffy fans. There's no evidence that supports this claim in the manga. :whitepress:
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So why do the shanksbros think Luffy has to surpass Shanks then? Gold D. Roger is dead (we dnt know his true strength) and was only named PK because he reached Laugh Tale. If Shanks reach Laugh Tale before luffy, then he should be considered PK, right? Being PK means little when we're power scaling. WB was considered stronger than Gol Roger even though he wasnt the PK. Why Shanks is the focus, because Luffy literally proclaimed he would have a better crew than his idol, and shanks told him to return his hat when he becomes a great pirate. Thats end game, by surpassing shanks, he would become the new pk, so he can fulfill his real dream. Hes actually competing with Shanks now, where we can see Luffy surpassing Shanks, we cant do that with a dead man with only legends to go by.

To make it short, Shanks doesnt need to be PK for Luffy end goal to be, surpassing shanks.

That's pretty foolish statement. You forget that to reach Raftel, you have to obtain all 4 road poneglyph's which are held by the Yonko. In other words you'd have to overcome the strongest pirates in the One Piece world. Here you have 2 of the World's Strongest admitting inferiority to the PK:







Kaido has made it very clear that he only respects the strong. So his declaration is a pretty big deal.




If it were just as simple as reaching an island then it wouldn't be that big of a deal.

The only people who have ever been perceived as Roger's equal are Whitebeard and Xebec. Those that came closest to become PK in the end have not been able to achieve it. The Yonko have been in a stalemate for years for this very reason until Luffy came around. With Shanks suddenly deciding to go after the One Piece once Kaido was taken out of the picture . Even WB never wanted a fight with Kaido due to the heavy losses it would incur.

But you know the Pirate King title isn't about Power at all. It's about reaching some island. :laughmoji:
 
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#53
In terms of freedom he is the closest.

But in terms of power, it doesn't apply. You guys fabricated this belief among so called Luffy fans. There's no evidence that supports this claim in the manga. :whitepress:
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That's pretty foolish statement. You forget that to reach Raftel, you have to obtain all 4 road poneglyph's which are held by the Yonko. In other words you'd have to overcome the strongest pirates in the One Piece world. Here you have 2 of the World's Strongest admitting inferiority to the PK:







Kaido has made it very clear that he only respects the strong. So his declaration is a pretty big deal.




If it were just as simple as reaching an island then it wouldn't be that big of a deal.

The only people who have ever been perceived as Roger's equal are Whitebeard and Xebec. Those that came closest to become PK in the end have not been able to achieve it. The Yonko have been in a stalemate for years for this very reason until Luffy came around. With Shanks suddenly deciding to go after the One Piece once Kaido was taken out of the picture . Even WB never wanted a fight with Kaido due to the heavy losses it would incur.

But you know the Pirate King title isn't about Power at all. It's about reaching some island. :laughmoji:
So good!!
:cheers:
 
#54
...when his jolly roger flag literally has 2 swords on it

why isnt there haki on the skull instead? :choppawhat:
So in a fight, Luffy's hat should be his strongest main weapon and power since the Strawhat is at his Jolly Roger instead of Nika2 Fruit or CoC or his fist...:chopoff:
 
#56
Shanks and Mihawk are relative until it’s outright stated who’s stronger. Mihawk is the better swordsman, doesn’t mean the guy is overall is stronger. Same goes for Shanks with Mihawk, although so far the story is putting more merit on Shanks overall. Oda is making it a gray area on purpose to keep the story more interesting. If it’s always obvious who’s stronger in a world as big as OP, then it would be quite boring.

it’s also annoying how these kind of conversations always have a hidden agenda underneath (Luffy, Zoro). Which doesn’t matter because Luffy at the end will be the strongest by default so who cares
 
#58
So in a fight, Luffy's hat should be his strongest main weapon and power since the Strawhat is at his Jolly Roger instead of Nika2 Fruit or CoC or his fist...:chopoff:
Luffy has inherited the will inside the hat. Remember how Swords makes Zoro Stronger? Enma? Now think the same of the Straw Hat. Go read the story again you will see Luffy on multiple occasions saying that the hat "Guides him".

:jordanmf:
 

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#59
Shanks and Mihawk are relative until it’s outright stated who’s stronger. Mihawk is the better swordsman, doesn’t mean the guy is overall is stronger. Same goes for Shanks with Mihawk, although so far the story is putting more merit on Shanks overall. Oda is making it a gray area on purpose to keep the story more interesting. If it’s always obvious who’s stronger in a world as big as OP, then it would be quite boring.

it’s also annoying how these kind of conversations always have a hidden agenda underneath (Luffy, Zoro). Which doesn’t matter because Luffy at the end will be the strongest by default so who cares
How can they be relative when one is called the STRONGEST swordsman
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In terms of freedom he is the closest.

But in terms of power, it doesn't apply. You guys fabricated this belief among so called Luffy fans. There's no evidence that supports this claim in the manga. :whitepress:
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That's pretty foolish statement. You forget that to reach Raftel, you have to obtain all 4 road poneglyph's which are held by the Yonko. In other words you'd have to overcome the strongest pirates in the One Piece world. Here you have 2 of the World's Strongest admitting inferiority to the PK:







Kaido has made it very clear that he only respects the strong. So his declaration is a pretty big deal.




If it were just as simple as reaching an island then it wouldn't be that big of a deal.

The only people who have ever been perceived as Roger's equal are Whitebeard and Xebec. Those that came closest to become PK in the end have not been able to achieve it. The Yonko have been in a stalemate for years for this very reason until Luffy came around. With Shanks suddenly deciding to go after the One Piece once Kaido was taken out of the picture . Even WB never wanted a fight with Kaido due to the heavy losses it would incur.

But you know the Pirate King title isn't about Power at all. It's about reaching some island. :laughmoji:
Statements from people who don't know what Roger did are meaningless

We've seen on panel what Roger did

His final voyage consists of
Stealing an rp from meme something Brook did


Begged his rival for oden

And everything else fell on his lap beating no one on the way


He didn't beat wb to be king
He didn't beat meme
He didn't beat shikki
 
#60
Luffy has inherited the will inside the hat. Remember how Swords makes Zoro Stronger? Enma? Now think the same of the Straw Hat. Go read the story again you will see Luffy on multiple occasions saying that the hat "Guides him".

:jordanmf:
I knew it. Oda made a grave mistake about Luffy's powers. All this time he misdrew Luffy's punch defeating all his enemies, since in Oda's mind all he ever draws his Luffy throwing the strawhat to defeat em all. Bajrang Gun is actually Bajrang Hat. Now i've seen the light.
 
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