General & Others King and Queen closest bounty between YC's of the same crew

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#83
Reading how some people think a 70mil. bounty difference is huge and puts one character in a different league than the other is rediculous.
The higher the bounties get the smaller is the weight of 10's of mil. differences.

A bounty difference of 10mil. between 2 characters with a 10mil. bounty and a 20mil. in the East Blue is Huge, it's double the amount!
But a 10mil. difference is nothing when the bounties are in the 100mil. range.
A character with 100mil. is not necessarily stronger than a character with 110mil. The difference is just way too small.
Pedro had a bounty of 382mil. and Tamago had a bounty of 429mil. - a difference of 47mil. That is not a big difference and they were only in the 400mil. range. And Pedro was even stronger than Tamago.
Kaidou has a bounty of 4,611,100,000 and Big Mom has a bounty of 4,388,000,000 - a difference of 223,100,000. That is a big difference in the lower 100mil. range, - 100mil. vs 323,1mil. is a big difference - but it's nothing when your bounty is in the 4bil. range.

A 70mil. difference when you are in the 1.3bil. range is nothing.

King and Queen had the same portrayal throughout the whole Arc and the fact that Oda made sure to put King, Queen and Marco in the same 1,3bil. range should tell you more than enough - they are in the same league.
King is the strongest only behind Kaido.

There is no Queen mention here. You lot will try to shift the narrative ur way because you believe in bullshit like Zoro and Sanji being close in strength wich never was and never will be the case.
 
#84
They are not in the same leage vivre card confirmed that King is the strongest second to only kaido.
First, vivre cards say alot of BS. They said Jozu's physical strenght is unrivaled - yeah sure...When the Manga doesn't mention King as the strongest as it was done with Katakuri i don't give a shit.
Second, being stronger doesn't mean you are in a different league. Akainu is stronger than Aokiji, but he needed 10 days to defeat him, they are in the same league.
 
#87
First, vivre cards say alot of BS. They said Jozu's physical strenght is unrivaled - yeah sure...When the Manga doesn't mention King as the strongest as it was done with Katakuri i don't give a shit.
Second, being stronger doesn't mean you are in a different league. Akainu is stronger than Aokiji, but he needed 10 days to defeat him, they are in the same league.
The YC1’s are in a different league though. Portrayal wise the YC1’s are far superior in terms of strength than the YC2’s, it’s been like this for a while now.
 
#88
The YC1’s are in a different league though. Portrayal wise the YC1’s are far superior in terms of strength than the YC2’s, it’s been like this for a while now.
Keep using headcanon made up ranks. There are no YC1,YC2 or whatever.

The problem here is that you guys just give King the same portrayal like other Vice Captain/Right Hand/Strongest Subordinates etc. had - while he didn't had that portrayal himself.

Marco and Katakuri were clearly portrayed as the strongest and the most important members and were highlighted to be above the others. Everybody respected them.
King was not. Since his introduction he was always paired with Queen.
King even has to use Kaidou's name to call the Flying Six, because they don't listen to him lol

You guys are using the dinamic of the BMP and the WBP to model the Beast Pirates after, when reality shows something else.
Smoothie is closer to Cracker bounty wise than she is to Katakuri. While Queen is much closer to King than he is to Jack. Queen has 320mil. more than Jack and only 70mil. less than King. What tells you that?

Oda could have easily give Queen a 1,1-1,2bil. bounty to seperate him enough from King and follow the same dinamic he used for the BMP and WBP. But no, he made sure to put them both and Marco in the same 1,3bil. range.
Ofc Zorobois try to push King to oblivion - even if King would have a lower bounty than Queen they would come up with some random ass BS to say that King is above Queen and in a different league, just because he is fighting Zoro.
I mean we already had this nonsense with Hachi and Kuroobi - Kuroobi had 1mil. more than Hachi - yet Zorobois said that doesn't mean anything and that Hachi was stil stronger.
 
#89
Keep using headcanon made up ranks. There are no YC1,YC2 or whatever.

The problem here is that you guys just give King the same portrayal like other Vice Captain/Right Hand/Strongest Subordinates etc. had - while he didn't had that portrayal himself.

Marco and Katakuri were clearly portrayed as the strongest and the most important members and were highlighted to be above the others. Everybody respected them.
King was not. Since his introduction he was always paired with Queen.
King even has to use Kaidou's name to call the Flying Six, because they don't listen to him lol

You guys are using the dinamic of the BMP and the WBP to model the Beast Pirates after, when reality shows something else.
Smoothie is closer to Cracker bounty wise than she is to Katakuri. While Queen is much closer to King than he is to Jack. Queen has 320mil. more than Jack and only 70mil. less than King. What tells you that?

Oda could have easily give Queen a 1,1-1,2bil. bounty to seperate him enough from King and follow the same dinamic he used for the BMP and WBP. But no, he made sure to put them both and Marco in the same 1,3bil. range.
Ofc Zorobois try to push King to oblivion - even if King would have a lower bounty than Queen they would come up with some random ass BS to say that King is above Queen and in a different league, just because he is fighting Zoro.
I mean we already had this nonsense with Hachi and Kuroobi - Kuroobi had 1mil. more than Hachi - yet Zorobois said that doesn't mean anything and that Hachi was stil stronger.
Vivre card said otherwise King the right hand LOL
 
#91
Keep using headcanon made up ranks. There are no YC1,YC2 or whatever.

The problem here is that you guys just give King the same portrayal like other Vice Captain/Right Hand/Strongest Subordinates etc. had - while he didn't had that portrayal himself.

Marco and Katakuri were clearly portrayed as the strongest and the most important members and were highlighted to be above the others. Everybody respected them.
King was not. Since his introduction he was always paired with Queen.
King even has to use Kaidou's name to call the Flying Six, because they don't listen to him lol

You guys are using the dinamic of the BMP and the WBP to model the Beast Pirates after, when reality shows something else.
Smoothie is closer to Cracker bounty wise than she is to Katakuri. While Queen is much closer to King than he is to Jack. Queen has 320mil. more than Jack and only 70mil. less than King. What tells you that?

Oda could have easily give Queen a 1,1-1,2bil. bounty to seperate him enough from King and follow the same dinamic he used for the BMP and WBP. But no, he made sure to put them both and Marco in the same 1,3bil. range.
Ofc Zorobois try to push King to oblivion - even if King would have a lower bounty than Queen they would come up with some random ass BS to say that King is above Queen and in a different league, just because he is fighting Zoro.
I mean we already had this nonsense with Hachi and Kuroobi - Kuroobi had 1mil. more than Hachi - yet Zorobois said that doesn't mean anything and that Hachi was stil stronger.
The vivre card which says King's bounty and which this whole discussion is based off says King is the Right-hand man and second strongest. So I'll say it again it's always been YC1 then YC2 then YC3. They're all on different levels
 
#92
The vivre card which says King's bounty and which this whole discussion is based off says King is the Right-hand man and second strongest. So I'll say it again it's always been YC1 then YC2 then YC3. They're all on different levels
Of course they are on different levels but you dont have much rn to put king above queen so much so based on bounties ( doesn't necessarily mean strength ) you can see they are relatively close, king is the second strongest in BP but queen does not fall behind that much, if he is then prove because currently both of them seem similar and dangerous their own ways.
 
#94
The vivre card which says King's bounty and which this whole discussion is based off says King is the Right-hand man and second strongest. So I'll say it again it's always been YC1 then YC2 then YC3. They're all on different levels
I already commented on that, which you btw. Quoted already. All you just wrote is copy pasted.
Which is not a surprise, that's how it always goes with Zorobois - ignore everything someone says and just copy paste their nonsense all over again.
First, vivre cards say alot of BS. They said Jozu's physical strenght is unrivaled - yeah sure...When the Manga doesn't mention King as the strongest as it was done with Katakuri i don't give a shit.
Second, being stronger doesn't mean you are in a different league. Akainu is stronger than Aokiji, but he needed 10 days to defeat him, they are in the same league.
The reason why Katakuri was highlighted and pushed so much was because he was the main boss for Luffy.

The same thing we have now with King and Queen being Zoro's and Sanji's opponents - hence why their dinamic is completely different from what we have seen in the BMP's.
Zoro's and Sanji's opponent were always in the same league - cry as much as you want.
 
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#96
Reminding again the Queen detractors that he is the only YC in the range of 1,3 bil to 1,4 bil alongside King and Marco :queenhear:

It's true that in a particular crew YC 1 always is stronger than YC 2 who always is stronger than YC 3 of that crew, that's the whole point of us naming them as such, but the dynamics are different between crews in terms of where the significant gaps happen.

For BM pirates, the significant gap is between Katakuri and Smoothie with almost 2x the bounty difference that's between Smoothie and Cracker, while for the Beast Pirates the significant gap is between Queen and Jack where there's almost 5x the bounty difference between King and Queen.

The bounty difference between King and Queen ended up the smallest one between any two top YC's of any crew revealed to date, including gaps between other YC 2 and YC 3 or YC3 and YC 4 :queenmoji:
 
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#97
I already commented on that, which you btw. Quoted already. All you just wrote is copy pasted.
Which is not a surprise, that's how it always goes with Zorobois - ignore everything someone says and just copy paste their nonsense all over again.
Well if you cant take what the Vivre card says as fact then you cant take the bounty as facts as well since King’s bounty is according to the vivre card as well.

Of course they are on different levels but you dont have much rn to put king above queen so much so based on bounties ( doesn't necessarily mean strength ) you can see they are relatively close, king is the second strongest in BP but queen does not fall behind that much, if he is then prove because currently both of them seem similar and dangerous their own ways.
That’s the thing we dont even have to wait. Right now Queen is fighting Sanji in his base form and Sanji is keeping up, Sanji using the RS was almost low dif’d by King. Queen as well was one shot by a no DF no haki BM whereas King right now is fighting a guy who scarred Kaido and has Tanked a combined attack from Kaido and BM both using haki and their DF’s.
 
#98
The reason why Katakuri was highlighted and pushed so much was because he was the main boss for Luffy.
Katakuri's portrayal isn't exclusive to himself but to those at the top of the Yonkou heavy hitter bracket. It's not anymore to Katakuri than the Sweet Generals' portrayal are exclusive to themselves and not Yonkou heavy hitters when Cracker was ragdolling base Luffy. Luffy fought Katakuri that arc the same reason he fought Cracker, they were stepping stones. Yeah, King and Queen are in the "same" league but so are Katakuri and Cracker. King and Katakuri are more special for being at the top.
 
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