Speculations Kizaru Versus Mihawk Seraphim Cowardly Act.. a very weird and stupid double standard

#1
Hi Worstgen,

When the Mihawk Seraphim left the fight with Luffy, Zoro, Lucci, and Kaku, it was mentioned that he was likely doing it to attack weaker opponents in an effort to cause the stronger ones to become temporarily distraught to open a window of opportunity to attack them.

For example, if Usopp died, then that would probably cause Luffy to leave his guard open temporarily and he could receive damage during that time. A window of opportunity exists.

Now... people are saying Kizaru is so strong that he is not only pushing Luffy beyond his limits, but they also say that he is playing around and not taking Luffy seriously at all.

Their "evidences" for this includes Kizaru "blitzing Luffy" and then proceeding to attack Usopp or Vegapunk.

"Blitzing" suggests that he easily defeated Luffy and then moved on to other targets.

But isn't the truth.... he avoided Luffy because he's too strong and he did the same thing the cowardly Mihawk Seraphim did by attacking weaker enemies to cause the stronger one to drop their guard.

Somehow... the fandom has twisted this to the following format.

Seraphim Mihawk = A coward because he ran away from a fight to pick on weaker enemies

Admiral Kizaru = Not a coward... because he ran away from a fight to pick on weaker enemies. In fact, he's being hyped as one-shotting Luffy and then moving on to one-shot other people. The only problem with that logic being he didn't actually one shot anybody except maybe Sentomaru.

Double standard.
 
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#3
Kizaru is not doing any of this to make Luffy drop his guard. Vegapunk is the target of his mission so of course he will be the one he is going after. As long as he can get Luffy out of his way and accomplish what he is actually here for that's a win in his book.
 
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Kizaru is not doing any of this to make Luffy drop his guard. Vegapunk is the target of his mission so of course he will be the one he is going after. As long as he can get Luffy out of his way and accomplish what he is actually here for that's a win in his book.
If you were fighting an emperor of the sea... would you really take time out of your fight to try to kill Usopp? Usopp is nearly useless in every sense of the word. The only thing he's good for is being a fodder bait.
 
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If you were fighting an emperor of the sea... would you really take time out of your fight to try to kill Usopp? Usopp is nearly useless in every sense of the word. The only thing he's good for is being a fodder bait.
You're getting it wrong, Kizaru had Usopp had his mercy but released him when he saw where Vegapunk went instead of ending his life or using him as a hostage because he doesn't care about straw hats, Luffy included.
 
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If you were fighting an emperor of the sea... would you really take time out of your fight to try to kill Usopp? Usopp is nearly useless in every sense of the word. The only thing he's good for is being a fodder bait.
He was looking for Punk and went where he last saw him. He straight up released Usopp as soon as he figured out where Punk was. If getting at Luffy was really what he was aiming for, that was the perfect opportunity for hostages.
 
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Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
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because he ran away from a fight to pick on weaker enemies.
Kizaru didn’t run away though, he one shot Snake Man and then kept Gear 5 at bay with his clones lol. There was never a moment where Luffy wanted to fight Kizaru and Kizaru dipped, Kizaru continuously trolled Luffy while simultaneously trying to kill Vegapunk which is his actual mission.

Mihawk has legit ran away from many fights before.
 
#12
If Kizaru didn't care about Luffy then he wouldn't have engaged him at all. He would've bypassed him.

He has to get past Luffy to get to Vegapunk and that essentially means he has to fight Luffy or at the very least hold him off.

But he isn't going to actually give Luffy much of a fight. He's just going to try to hold him off.
 
#13
If Kizaru didn't care about Luffy then he wouldn't have engaged him at all. He would've bypassed him.

He has to get past Luffy to get to Vegapunk and that essentially means he has to fight Luffy or at the very least hold him off.

But he isn't going to actually give Luffy much of a fight. He's just going to try to hold him off.
Kizaru didn't engage though. Luffy is pretty clearly the one who threw the first kick and instead of pursuing Luffy after sending him flying into Vegaforce and the barrier, Kizaru instead went for Vegapunk which shows what he views as his priority here. He confirms it again this chapter by sending in clones to distract Luffy while he goes off to look for his actual target.

Bypassing Luffy is all he's been trying to do since the start of the confrontation and I understand why he still wouldn't feel like he has to outright challenge Luffy to a full fight in order to get past him. His first attempt would have been pretty successful if he didn't stop for a chat.
 
#14
Kizaru didn't engage though. Luffy is pretty clearly the one who threw the first kick and instead of pursuing Luffy after sending him flying into Vegaforce and the barrier, Kizaru instead went for Vegapunk which shows what he views as his priority here. He confirms it again this chapter by sending in clones to distract Luffy while he goes off to look for his actual target.

Bypassing Luffy is all he's been trying to do since the start of the confrontation and I understand why he still wouldn't feel like he has to outright challenge Luffy to a full fight in order to get past him. His first attempt would have been pretty successful if he didn't stop for a chat.
He has been grabbed and thrown at the sea by Luffy or stopped somehow every single time. He isn't getting past Luffy, and Luffy is making that clear. It looks bad on Kizaru to keep attempting it and to continue failing.

It's still a fact he can't let anybody escape.
 
#15
He has been grabbed and thrown at the sea by Luffy or stopped somehow every single time. He isn't getting past Luffy, and Luffy is making that clear.
I think you are missing the point I was adressing here. You were implying that Kizaru cares about going into a full fight with Luffy right now and I showed that this is clearly not his focus.

He is not the one who engaged the battle as you argue and he is indeed only been trying to bypass Luffy so far (sending him flying out of the way/ distracting him with clones)

My overall point is that Kizaru is not doing any of this to create an opening and defeat Luffy like OP is claiming. He is simply focusing on his real mission target, Vegapunk.
 
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#17
Fighting Luffy goes hand in hand with trying to attack Vegapunk.

I'll concede he may have thought Usopp was Vegapunk when he arrived. He should have tried to kill him right then. Dumb that he didn't.

Kizaru did fight with Luffy for a lengthy period it was just offscreened.
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blitzing doesnt necessarily have anything to do with defeating.
The way people talk about him they say Kizaru can kill Luffy and other Emperors at the same time. It's baffling.
 
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