Kouyoku vs Gyou'un

[Great General Kanki]

Scenario1: 10k vs 10k on the plains
Scenario 2: Duel with no interference

How does this go?

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

S1: Kouyoku army gets destroyed. I don't think he can escape Gyou'Un and the Rai'un unit plus the 10 spears. If he has Hakurei army support from the side then he might escape.

S2: Depending on how strong he got now, if he is on par with the Qin 3 then he can beat Gyou'Un extreme diff.

 

[Great General Kanki]

S1: Kouyoku army gets destroyed. I don't think he can escape Gyou'Un and the Rai'un unit plus the 10 spears. If he has Hakurei army support from the side then he might escape.

S2: Depending on how strong he got now, if he is on par with the Qin 3 then he can beat Gyou'Un extreme diff.

Are these two statements not a contradiction? If he is on par with the Q3 as per the bottom, why would he get destroyed as per the top?

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

Are these two statements not a contradiction? If he is on par with the Q3 as per the bottom, why would he get destroyed as per the top?

I meant as Kouyoku is on par with Qin 3 in strength, not their armies. I don't recall Kouyoku army is anything outstanding without the teamwork/support from Hakurei army.

 

[Lee Ba Shou]

We need more feats of tactics from Yoku, there’s little reason to assume he can tactically compete with Gyou’Un who was one of the more monstrous tacticians we’ve seen.

Round 1: Gyou’Un high diffs giving Yoku benefit of the doubt
Round 2: Either way

 

[SakazOuki]

Armies: Gyouun's army would have no trouble whatsoever, vast difference in experience and quality.
Duel: Kouyoku kinda gave Tou a run for his money, and as he's a future rival to Q3 I think he should take this.
Also worthy of note that Gyouun's main strength came from his master's vision regarding the Shukai plains.

 

[Xione]

Armies: Gyou'un Clears

Duel: Gyou'un Clears

 

[Shanks]

S1 : Armies. Gyou'un would destroying here for sure. Lol

S2 : KyouYoku. I believe he was already giving quite a good time to a Martial GG in Coalition and now he should definitely has improved.

 

[Great General Kanki]

I think Kouyoku would surprise a few in a battle. This guy is a parallel to the Qin new gen and if Gyou'un's army would bowl him over, why didn't Tou do that at Juuko when it was 10k vs 10k?

 

[God Buggy]

In a duel, I wouldn't be surprised if Kouyoku takes it. Dude's a beast of a fighter (heck he was very impressive as far back as the time of the Coalition - and he has obviously been improving since then). Not many people are going to best current Kouyoku 1vs1.

In a war with equalized forces, based on what we've seen until now, Gyou’Un. That being said sooner or later Kouyoku is going to be above people like Gyou’Un.