Future Events Laffitte is in Egghead's Lab to take the Seraphim, York, and Kaku. This was foreshadowed by his first appearnce in Mary Geoise

#21
It doesn’t make sense to spend your time going after a temporary resource lol

nor have they shown a desire for the seraphim
Blackbeard also showed no desire for level 6 prisoners until they went for it.

And it’s not a temporary resource? It’s a massive boost in military might. And you think Blackbeard knew about the hierarchy? They probably got a chip thought they had control over the seraphim and said let’s get them
 

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#22
Blackbeard also showed no desire for level 6 prisoners until they went for it.

And it’s not a temporary resource? It’s a massive boost in military might. And you think Blackbeard knew about the hierarchy? They probably got a chip thought they had control over the seraphim and said let’s get them
That’s completely different. We had no idea about the level 6 prisoners prior to the middle of Impel Down, we’ve had 60 chapters of Seraphim and repeated Teach cameos without a hint of interest.

why would they want a power that can be used against them in any naval encounter lol
 
#23
That’s completely different. We had no idea about the level 6 prisoners prior to the middle of Impel Down, we’ve had 60 chapters of Seraphim and repeated Teach cameos without a hint of interest.

why would they want a power that can be used against them in any naval encounter lol
Because why would they think it could be used against them if they hold the control chip?
 

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#24
Honestly you are definitely onto something. Points made for all 3 sets of characters:

- Blackbeard going for the Serephim make sense because Devon had no idea Saturn would be at Egghead. She then touches him and says "Mission Complete". Implying that whatever they did prior was enhanced by the fact that Saturn was there. Last we saw the Seraphim, they were captured so it makes sense here that Blackbeard came to capture them for himself after witnessing what they could do at Amazon Lily

- Kaku also could make sense, but moreso because I have a feeling that even if Zoro defeats Lucci, Oda wants Lucci to be a reluctant ally in the future. By having Kaku kidnapped, Lucci might stick around further trying to get back his ally in the end.

- York is fascinating, but maybe she had a secret deal with Blackbeard's side and she'd give them the Mother Flame as well.

Really these are the only 3 avenues Oda can go with Blackbeard arriving here, and since Robin is still with Nami/Chopper/Usopp, then it definitely wasnt about her (not to mention they stole Pudding anyway)
-Blackbeard is definitely interested in the Seraphim, I can't think of anything else that would have been his immediate goal in invading Egghead.

-Yep, I believe Kaku being kidnapped will force Lucci into being an unwilling ally, which Egghead already teased.

-I LOVE York now, which is funny cause I hated her traitor reveal a lot. If Vegapunk as Ohara's knowledge, the Stella and Satellites should be able to read Poneglyphs, too, making Pudding replacable if York joins the BBP.
 
#26
A control chip that every navy person has, why would they assume that they’d have full control if they encountered… any other navy vessel with a control chip?
Not every navy person has that. And why would they assume the control chips would overpower the others? If Blackbeard gives an order with the control chip, the seraphim will follow that order before any other order by another control chip or until Blackbeard gets knocked out.

So, what the issue?
 

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#27
You have to ask yourself why would Blackbeard's crew come to Egghead when they did? It definitely wasnt for Saturn in isolation, because they didnt know they were on the island at that time. Then Devon says to Saturn "mission accomplished" when she touches him, which sort of implies she now has the ability to control the Seraphim otherwise.

I.e. it doesnt make sense that their plan is to infiltrate Mariejoa because they didn't know about Saturn being on Egghead prior to them arriving. It makes more sense they were there for the Seraphim. The Mother Flame's use isnt known by anyone outside of Saturn. Even York doesnt seem to know why she's been sending it to them

Oh, I just realized this implies the other Vegapunk's have no idea about Lulusia, most likely.

Oda stays justifying Vegapunk's science causing destruction by making Vegapunk ignorant of it.

I still have no idea what the hell's going to happen to the Motherflame. No way it gets destroyed when we haven't even seen it...

Oooooh, if part of Egghead gets transported to Wano by Kuma through teleport... maybe the Mother Flame will be used to power Pluton? I'm trying to think of what other ancient tech the Mother Flame could be used to power beside Imu's flying laser weapon.
 

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#28
Not every navy person has that. And why would they assume the control chips would overpower the others? If Blackbeard gives an order with the control chip, the seraphim will follow that order before any other order by another control chip or until Blackbeard gets knocked out.

So, what the issue?
Why would Blackbeard assume that he’d have the only control or the world government wouldn’t have a fail safe on them?

it makes absolutely no sense for the BB pirates to be hunting Seraphim. It’s a random thought that got traction in this site.
 
#29
Why would Blackbeard assume that he’d have the only control or the world government wouldn’t have a fail safe on them?

it makes absolutely no sense for the BB pirates to be hunting Seraphim. It’s a random thought that got traction in this site.
It’s literally the only thing on Egghead that the the BB Pirates know is there lmao
 

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#31
A control chip that every navy person has, why would they assume that they’d have full control if they encountered… any other navy vessel with a control chip?
Well, they got control chip so they can control seras until someome from higher hierarchy comes in.


But what if they get York? She is VP and if I am right then only Gorosei can override her control. You don't see Gorosei appearing down below anyway.
 

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#33
What if Laffite captures Robin as side job on top of that? I doubt we'll get another Robin rescue arc but It's quite convenient that the only ones able to protect her right now are the weaklings.


Pudding's eye isn't awakened though. Capturing Robin would be a way to maximize their chance
So we introduce the pudding third eye thing just to ignore it and go for Robin instead?
 

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#34
We don't know if Vegapunk can read the poneglyphs, maybe he used what was written in the books of Ohara for his digging but it's no the same as being able to read the road ponegylphs

I mean Laffite might do it next chapter, Blackbeard Pirates haven't left the island yet
Unless Robin somehow learned to read Poneglyphs from a source outside of Ohara after Ohara's destruction, Robin learned to read Poneglyphs from spying on the researchers of Ohara's basement using her powers, against their wishes.

Robin was an amateur archeologist with a bodypart-producing Devil Fruit, Vegapunk is the smartest being in the verse with the Brain Devil Fruit.

If Robin learned to decipher Poneglyphs from the same info Vegapunk received, but Vegapunk can't decipher Poneglyphs, it doesn't make any sense IMO.


Regarding Laffitte, since he can fly, he wouldn't need Augur's help leaving the island, either, Laffitte would just need Augur to teleport him past the laser grid. Then, Laffitte can turn off the Frontier Dome lasers from inside, and fly out with York and the Seraphim using the magic-flying-boots York and the Seraphim have.

Still wondering where the hell the Blackbeard Pirates parked their ship, though. Technically Augur could teleport it inland to hide it, I guess. It's possible Egghead is inbetween Winner's Island and Hachinosu, and that Teach is heading this way either way. Maybe Augur teleported here, and Teach is on the way to pick them up?
 

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#35
It could be York, but Blackbeard encountered Seraphim weeks before so who knows. Laffite can mind control people, so I would guess he could just do the same to Seraphim? Maybe that was the idea
Doubt he can do that.


Lafitte can mind control one of the VP -york possibly and have her control seras.
 

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#38
It could be York, but Blackbeard encountered Seraphim weeks before so who knows. Laffite can mind control people, so I would guess he could just do the same to Seraphim? Maybe that was the idea
Wait... the Seraphim are humanoid clones, and have no DF-negating powers. Since they haven't been shown using Haki, possibly due to not having full Wills of their own yet, they can't use Haki to break out of hypnosis.

Holy hell, Laffitte should be able to hypnotize them. I just assumed it wouldn't work since they were cyborgs, but, the Seraphim have personalities unlike the other Pacifista, they have consciousness. SO, there's no real reason I can think of Laffitte wouldn't be able to hypnotize them. That's really dangerous.
 
#39
I was 100% sure Laffitte will be on Egghead, the last time we saw that guy is at the beginning of the Zou arc (not counting the flashback). We saw all other Blackbeard pirates multiple times since then, and we know all of their powers. Oda is really holding him for something special.
 

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#40
York would make more sense considering she called them
Either she called them or they just made a move to egghead after BB saw seras

In second scenario, Lafitte presence would get justified because he can mind control any of the VP to get sera control


Either way, BBP mission should not be just about getting sera but also one of the VP otherwise just having sera with control chip won't make much sense
 
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