Speculations Luffy beats Kaido and Zoro kills him

#85
Is that why he is huffing after Zoro's Asura? Because he wasnt reduced from 100%? :yasu:
Yeah he wasn't reduced in any way, sorry.
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"Your technique left a lot to be desired" that literally screams disappointment.
About Luffy's technique, not about power. Kaidou literally said Luffy gained access to a powerful weapon but didnt know how to use it and got carried away.
 
#86
• Hi Guys ;

well i saw some ppl saying this in their replies :
<< Luffy beats / defeats Kaido and Zoro kills him >>


• lmao just based on this speech you can tell that Kaido is still alive or conscious and Zoro kills him how the fuck can you say that Luffy beats Kaido while he is still kicking around ?
if you want to claim that Luffy making Kaido getting koed for some seconds means beating then scabbards beat Kaido or Luffy beat Kaido in these situations .


• this is like saying Luffy defeated Doffy who was out not moving at all back then in dresssrosa lmao


• If these ppl who say that Zoro kills Kaido ; they should have known that it is related to Ryuma's legend which was told by Gyuki when he talked to Zoro :
<< Ryuma killed a Dragon above the capital >>


which means Kaido would do the same and he still kicks around and can attack you not like Kaido being down and Zoro comes to kill him on the ground lmao :milaugh: that would contradict what Ryuma did and what the second Ryuma should portray to do :milaugh:.

either way ; if you believe in Zoro killing Kaido then nah Luffy ain't beating Kaido and won't get called like that ; Luffy beats someone when he koes him for goo or falls down for good :

1- vs Doffy
2- vs Lucci
3- vs Cracker
4- vs Hody
5- vs Moria
6- Crocodile
.......
..
so Koeing Kaido for some seconds and then standing up to fight againt and Zoro kills him ain't getting called a defeat or a W for luffy when Kaido can still massacre ppl lmao .


• I consider Luffy beating Kaido in two situations:
1- Luffy koeing Kaido for Good like what he did to lucci a Zoan user like Kaido .
2- Luffy continues fighting with Kaido until he kills him .


the second one is impossible because luffy can't kill so you have the first one but it won't validate ZKK that those ppl believe in it and they still say that Luffy beats Kaido and Zoro kills him :milaugh:

• well Kaido has 7 Ls isn't it ? He didn't get scarred by anyone or killed and they still considered to be Ls ; he got defeated which means one thing ; the one who beats him koed him for good without killing him or making a scar on his body so if luffy didn't accomplish what was shown here instead we got ZKK nah Luffy didn't beat Kaido ; the one who killed him can be called he beats Kaido better than Luffy but in the end it's a team work where luffy sends Kaido to Zoro who will try to kill him while Kaido also counter attacks with boro breath or something .

Thanks for reading
Fair points but a waste non the less, you said all that, but you forgot the 2 times that not happened. 1st every thing you said is undermined by Luffy and Zoros encounter with the dragon, luffy fought the dragon and then went on to a bigger threat (even though he couldn't pierce the dragon) they are currently fighting a dragon who just so happened to be an apprentice on a legendary crew and who now is 1 of only 2 pirates with a title that is an appointed position Kaido is the governor-general of the beast pirates, not the captain, not the admiral or the boss or royalty but governor-general (I think ochoco aka the pink haired silhouette in 957 is actually the threat that luffy will move up to face while zoro takes kaido.
2nd scenario mimics luffy and zoros introduction, luffy beating Morgan senseless only to let zoro cut him down as he saved a child (momo and Tama are present on onigashima)
I'll say ZKK is over once the time in the story is 8am over the flower capital, if it doesn't happen then then it wont happen at all.
 
#88
Lay of the weeeeeed, I mean copium. :goyea:
Kaidou felt the hurt of his skin being scarred and Zoro being annoying like Law. Zoro's 100% + Oden's presence of haki in Enma did nothing else. Luffy while being a shrimp like you said, gave Kaidou PTSD, knocking him down, damaged him like no one else with a punch, and resemblance of 5 strongest chars at once from the first casual Red Roc without any adv CoA or CoC or others' haki storage. What a GOAT of a shrimp.
 
#89
Kaidou felt the hurt of his skin being scarred and Zoro being annoying like Law. Zoro's 100% + Oden's presence of haki in Enma did nothing else. Luffy while being a shrimp like you said, gave Kaidou PTSD, knocking him down, damaged him like no one else with a punch, and resemblance of 5 strongest chars at once from the first casual Red Roc without any adv CoA or CoC or others' haki storage. What a GOAT of a shrimp.
Everything that a shrimp has done with 53 hits combined cannot hold a candle to what Zori did with 3 hits... :goyea:
 
#90
Everything that a shrimp has done with 53 hits combined cannot hold a candle to what Zori did with 3 hits... :goyea:
What Zoro did was his 100%, while Luffy playing around got Kaidou the worst PTSD and singling him out of every SNs in every way since first attack lol Luffy goofing not surprising since his CoA alone is enough to tank attacks like Boro Breath and Ragnarok with no lasting damage at all.
 
#91
Everything that a shrimp has done with 53 hits combined cannot hold a candle to what Zori did with 3 hits... :goyea:
Sure a papercut and a spit in his fucking face:suresure::gokulaugh:
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I wonder what will Zoro fanbase do when ZKK inevitabily wont happen. So far they consider this a dogma,they dont even consider other possibitlies. They say that ZKK will happen,period. So i am curios to see what they will do when it wont happen. Will they drop the series? Will they pretend they never supported the theory and criticize Sanji instead? We'll see when Wano will end,so sadly it will take still many years to see what will happen.
They'll go back to their caves and wont come back until lolo vs fraudhawk the battle of frauds
 
#92
Sure a papercut and a spit in his fucking face:suresure::gokulaugh:
I will take all the salt you can provide. :goyea:

What Zoro did was his 100%, while Luffy playing around got Kaidou the worst PTSD and singling him out of every SNs in every way since first attack lol Luffy goofing not surprising since his CoA alone is enough to tank attacks like Boro Breath and Ragnarok with no lasting damage at all.
3 power-ups, 3 KOes...
Meanwhile, Zori rocking and achieving what no other aside from Oden has done, even did it better than Oden.
And he is still coming to claim his head. This arc, Zoro took over as MC. The bench doesnt look good on Luffytardo.
 
#96
I will take all the salt you can provide. :goyea:


3 power-ups, 3 KOes...
Meanwhile, Zori rocking and achieving what no other aside from Oden has done, even did it better than Oden.
And he is still coming to claim his head. This arc, Zoro took over as MC. The bench doesnt look good on Luffytardo.
Being KOed by receiving WSC's recognition of being powerful, being the focus of Kaidou's full attention of attacks since the start of Rooftop battle and then 1vs1 for tens of minutes, with no noticeable injury let alone any broken bone, only lose due to being reckless without being close to going all out, is what Luffy did.

On the contrary, Zoro spent 100% just to block the wind from for Kaidou for two seconds, giving the scar that reduce nothing from Kaidou, being KOed helpless until now just by being passed by hybrid Kaidou. It's fun when you troll people by posting sarcastic gifs right? If you can't resist being rude as a respond to someone's opinion, you're fine with people stating things hard for you to live with, right?
 
#97
Being KOed by receiving WSC's recognition of being powerful, being the focus of Kaidou's full attention of attacks since the start of Rooftop battle and then 1vs1 for tens of minutes, with no noticeable injury let alone any broken bone, only lose due to being reckless without being close to going all out, is what Luffy did.

On the contrary, Zoro spent 100% just to block the wind from for Kaidou for two seconds, giving the scar that reduce nothing from Kaidou, being KOed helpless until now just by being passed by hybrid Kaidou. It's fun when you troll people by posting sarcastic gifs right? If you can't resist being rude as a respond to someone's opinion, you're fine with people stating things hard for you to live with, right?
Getting hype through actions>getting hype through words.
Zori has the best feats in the whole manga and no amount of Luffy fanboyism coming from Kaido will change that. :myman:
Luffy has gone all out and it did nothing, whole round of G4 resulted in absolutely nothing... Another round resulted in nothing too...
When Luffy blocks an island buster and gives Kaido a permanent injury you wont have to be that salty but I cant promise he ever will.
 
#99
Getting hype through actions>getting hype through words.
Zori has the best feats in the whole manga and no amount of Luffy fanboyism coming from Kaido will change that. :myman:
Luffy has gone all out and it did nothing, whole round of G4 resulted in absolutely nothing... Another round resulted in nothing too...
When Luffy blocks an island buster and gives Kaido a permanent injury you wont have to be that salty but I cant promise he ever will.
Luffy hadnt even begin to go all out and he tanked Boro Breath without any damage at all, the absolutely nothing hinders and made him lay in the ground for the longest time, he received direct hits from focused Kaidou with AdvCoC instead of a mere wind from the afar swing that casually broke Zoro in 1 second without any Adv CoC involved. If that breeze from Kaidou's swing is island buster then Kaidou's AdvCoC hits to Luffy's nuts is continent buster and result in no broken bones at all and all of 20-24 minutes equally clashing with that Kaidou whom all out Zoro couldnt even hold for 3 secs was base Luffy lolol
 
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Finalbeta

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I seriously doubt we spotted any attack breaching past island to partial country buster so far in the series with Hakai constituting such presumably. However Whitebeard's power was portrayed above in reaction scale. But that's a different kettle of fish.
 
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