General & Others Luffy having a Nika Fruit, does not change anything. Luffy is the best fighter in the series.

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Luffy having the Nika Fruit balances out the scales.

It still Luffy's Power. The fruit CHOSE him due to his potential, charisma, personality and willpower. The fruit had been running away from the World Gov for 800 years.

Luffy had said the same words as Roger BEFORE he ate the fruit.

He was also born with Voice of All Things and was born a D.

Luffy also wanted to be a pirate BEFORE he met Shanks. The vivre card databook stated this.

Saying the same words as Roger means he has been searching for freedom since he was born.

Luffy embodied Joyboy's ideals from the moment he was born. This is why the fruit chose him.

Luffy's charisma was so overpowering that it attracted the fruit and made Shanks stay at fusha village for 1 year.


Luffy is strong without his Devil Fruit

Oda made sure to show Luffy clashing with hybrid kaido without using his devil fruit.

He also made sure to show how powerful Luffy was without his devil fruit and haki in udon prison, when he was in seastone cuffs. He still had OP physical strength.

Luffy's 3 advanced forms of haki is his power.

Luffy's creativity and physical strength allow this fruit to be this powerful.

Luffy still had to lose life force when using this fruit. No other Zoan has the user losing life force.


Luffy is still the most impressive fighter in the series.

Luffy is still the most impressive person other than Roger

Luffy never worked on his physical strength in his life( until wano udon prison), never had any martial arts training, nor does he have any weapons training.

He also fights barehanded and made it to Yonko level without an Awakened Devil Fruit.

Look at all the other top tiers, they all have weapons, martial arts training and OP devil fruits.

Did not travel under anybody.

He is mostly self taught, other than learning basics of 3 haki from Rayleigh. Luffy is extremely talented in haki naturally as Rayleigh had stated,

Figuring out how to use his devil by himself and fight by himself. Thrown into a jungle and told to survive on his own.




Here are a list of Fighters below.

Garp- Recieved Marine Training(Knows Swordsmanship and Martial arts). Trained Physically. Taught professionally. OP Haki

Sengoku- Recieved Marine Training(Knows Swordsmanship and Martial arts). Trained Physically Taught professionally, and Has OP Devil Fruit, Have good Haki

All 3 Admirals are like Sengoku, Broken Devil Fruits, Good Haki

Koby- Recieved Marine Training(Knows Swordsmanship and Martial arts). Trained Physically. Taught professionally.


Yonko- Have OP Devil Fruits, Have Strong Weapons, Have OP Haki

Supernova's


Zoro - Professionaly trained as a kid in Swordsmanship, learned advanced Haki concepts as a kid, Trained Physically all the time, Trained professionally in his fighting style with Mihawk WSS. Taught haki by Mihawk Got OP Swords, plus Enma - a Special Sword(only sword to scar kaido), that allows Zoro to output more power than he can do naturally, and it unlocked COC -+ ADV COC for him, also took Kinemons Firestyle abiloity to generate and cut fire.

Law- HAS AN Beyond Brokem Devil Fruit, Strong Haki, Taught Proffesionally as fighter, Taught Swordsmanshio by Diamante, Taught Martial artsy lao J, Taught Marksmanship by Trebol, Taught Medicine which all happened at a young age.

Hawkins- Proffesionally trained in marines Swordsmanship, physical strength training, has a good devil fruit, Haki

Sanji( not supernova)- Recieved Swordsmanship trianing as Kid, Recieved Martial arts training, trained professionally. Has Haki, Has GEneically modified OP durable body, Diable Jumble firestyle, Ifrt jumble

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Luffy had said the same words as Roger BEFORE he ate the fruit.
we dont even know what these words are or at what point luffy said them in shanks presence though?
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Luffy never worked on his physical strength in his life( until wano udon prison), never had any martial arts training, nor does he have any weapons training.
someone forgot the ASL flashback?
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He also made sure to show how powerful Luffy was without his devil fruit and haki in udon prison, when he was in seastone cuffs. He still had OP physical strength.
you mean just like kid, who now in comparison to luffy looks like a toddler?
 
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Withoud his DF he would be nothing, Alvida would have killed him with a bonk in the head.

Everyone would be dead if he didnt eat that fruit tough.
Without his devil fruit, he would spend 10 years on Physcial strength gains, and pipe weapons training. He would also not fight as wreckless as he does with the Gomu Gomu no Mi.

We saw how strong Luffy is naturally( natural genetics ) in Udon Prison when he was wearing seastone cuffs. He was already a physica; monster. Now add 10 years of physical strenght training to that.
 
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Luffy never trained in his life ? Wtf lol ?
Do you even know Luffy ?
He never trained his physical strength in his life. Only in Udon did he ACTAULLY WORK ON HIS PHYSICAL STRENGTH.
All he ever did was work in his devil fruit control and haki.
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Best fighter? The same guy who took 4 Ls this arc
He is the most skilled fighter in the story along with Roger.
 
#10
Without his devil fruit, he would spend 10 years on Physcial strength gains, and pipe weapons training. He would also not fight as wreckless as he does with the Gomu Gomu no Mi.

We saw how strong Luffy is naturally( natural genetics ) in Udon Prison when he was wearing seastone cuffs. He was already a physica; monster. Now add 10 years of physical strenght training to that.
He was still training his physic for 10 years, he would be much weaker than he is now withoud his DF, saying otherwise is pure headcannon, specialy now that we know his DF is special.
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He was still training his physic for 10 years, he would be much weaker than he is now withoud his DF, saying otherwise is pure headcannon, spceialy now that we know his DF is special.
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he never trained his physique, all he was doing was training his devil fruit. he literally says that when he is punching the seaking, he spent 10 years perfecting his gum gum pistol.
 
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Withoud his DF he would be nothing, Alvida would have killed him with a bonk in the head.

Everyone would be dead if he didnt eat that fruit tough.
His brother Sabo only recently got a devil fruit and he was strong without. If Luffy never had a devil fruit he would still be strong with a different fighting style just like Sabo.
 
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