Speculations Luffy will use a shigan-based G4 form to beat kaido

#1
so as we know, Luffy's gears seem to emulate the rokushiki.

G2 allows Luffy to emulate soru by giving him access to enhanced speeds
G4 allows luffy to emulate geppo by giving him access to flight via skywalking

G3 at first glance doesn't seem to emulate any rokushiki but on closer inspection, one can see that it actually emulates tekkai as it allows luffy to harden his body. This is especially visible when luffy uses gomu gomu no gigant balloon, which makes his entire body hard.

There are, however, still a few other rokushiki that Luffy is yet to obtain, one of which is shigan. While this might seem like one of the weakest rokushiki, I think it might actually be the key to luffy defeating kaido.

To understand this, we need to take a closer look at some of the flaws of Luffy's current strongest form, boundman. While we know that boundman is extremely overpowered, it has one glaring weakness in that it utilizes too much haki. There are 2 extremely negative effects of this weakness.
  1. it gives boundman a timelimit
  2. it lessens the effect of Luffy's advanced CoA, which is used by luffy concentrating all the CoA of his body into one point.
the timelimit will inevitably be an issue against kaido, who as an awakened zoan has immense stamina. But making ACoA less effective is also a very big problem, as ACoA is one of Luffy's strongest weapons against kaido.

In Luffy's CoA training, one thing was stressed. That Luffy is relying too much on power. Hyougoro stated that ACoA wasn't about exerting physical force but rather exerting haki. While this might have been told to luffy solely for training purposes, I think it also hints at Luffy changing up the way he fights. I don't think Oda is going to have Luffy become stronger by having him use stronger and stronger punches. Oda even stated in an interview that that isn't going to be how Luffy beats kaido. Luffy using king king king king king king king king kong gun isn't going to be interesting.

Instead of luffy using more power, he will beat kaido by using less power more efficiently. in comes shigan. I believe that Luffy will use a new form based off the tiger he fought during his training. This form will be called "gear 4th tigerman"



whereas the lion, gorilla, and alligator are all huge animals, the tiger is relatively small. This reflects tigerman as this form will not make luffy huge nor will it necessarily be as physically strong as boundman.

In tigerman, Luffy will simply use gear 4th to enhance his hands, making them slightly larger.



this was foreshadowed twice. First by Afro luffy and then again in impel down with Luffy's candle armor.

in tigerman, Luffy will focus all of his haki onto the tips of his fingers, creating what appears to be claws out of haki aura. Then Luffy will simply compress his fingers and fire them out at blinding speeds.

This fixes the biggest weaknesses of boundman.
  1. by only using G4th to enhance his hands, Luffy doesn't exert nearly the same amount of haki that he did in boundman. While boundman had a timelimit which was only 20-30 minutes, this form would most likely have zero timelimit and would last for as long as luffy's stamina allows.
  2. since Luffy only needs to use haki on his hands to access this form, he can concentrate all the haki he would otherwise be using to simply maintain G4th into his attack power.
In this form, Luffy wouldn't be bringing down mountains with his fists, but instead would have access to far higher speeds than boundman or even snakeman would allow. It would also give him access to a piercing bullet that can break any defence.

But what about the mobility and defense that boundman offers? For mobility Luffy would use tigerman essentially like spiderman, shooting out his fingers, wrapping them around objects, and then swinging from them.

For defense, Luffy doesn't need the robust body that boundman offered anymore. With Future sight, he can dodge many attack that come his way, but for those he can't, he can simply use tigerman+ACoA to block or deflect.

anyways this is just my idea for what the new gear 4th form will be. Please feel free to leave your own thoughts and comments.
 
#7
Well Luffy is not alone in this fight regardless

So am not so sure Oda will think of something so thorough for him
yeah but Luffy won't be able to fight in this at all if he is forced to rely on boundman with its 30 minute timelimit.

Luffy needs a G4 form that he can use casually.

Shigan is actually their primary source of offense. I'd rather see Rankyaku though because hand to hand combat is a massive risk for the bigger enemies out there.
I feel like shigan fits luffy's theme better since all his attacks are gun themed. Also, for tigerman, I envisioned this form to be long range, with Luffy's fingers stretching as much as, if not more than snakeman.
 
#8
yeah but Luffy won't be able to fight in this at all if he is forced to rely on boundman with its 30 minute timelimit.

Luffy needs a G4 form that he can use casually.
You've got an interesting theory going on.

However, I would like to point out that theoretically the time limit is no longer an issue now that Luffy seemingly can go in and out of G4 at will post training.

He wont be over using the form now that he has other tools at his disposal like Flow and FS
 
#11
You've got an interesting theory going on.

However, I would like to point out that theoretically the time limit is no longer an issue now that Luffy seemingly can go in and out of G4 at will post training.
We don't know that. It might have just seemed that way because Luffy used it against fodder, however as many people have stated, he could have just done that in order to show up Eustass Kidd.

but in any case, even if Luffy has better control over it, it is still an ineffective form. Luffy needs to use CoA simply to maintain boundman, meaning that he wastes haki he could otherwise be using for his attacks.

He doesn't need Shigan when he can do roukuugun Lmao (Ryuu attack)
I think shigan is the most effective way to use ACoA. You are essentially concentrating all the haki from throughout your body to one single point- the tip of your fingers.

If you can do that, your CoA would be so strong that there would be no need for you to need to use boundman-level physical strength.
 
#12
We don't know that. It might have just seemed that way because Luffy used it against fodder, however as many people have stated, he could have just done that in order to show up Eustass Kidd.

but in any case, even if Luffy has better control over it, it is still an ineffective form. Luffy needs to use CoA simply to maintain boundman, meaning that he wastes haki he could otherwise be using for his attacks.



I think shigan is the most effective way to use ACoA. You are essentially concentrating all the haki from throughout your body to one single point- the tip of your fingers.

If you can do that, your CoA would be so strong that there would be no need for you to need to use boundman-level physical strength.
You want him to be basically like the 3rd Raikage, right? Haha, cool
 
#13
yeah but Luffy won't be able to fight in this at all if he is forced to rely on boundman with its 30 minute timelimit.

Luffy needs a G4 form that he can use casually.
If he can fight casually then it's his base form. If his casual fighting (base) form becomes stronger than regular Gear 4, then the gear 4 he uses will then be even stronger than that.

Anyway, what I'm saying is that base form or not, Rankyaku style projectiles keep him out of harm's way. He's better off having his distance attack deflected than say, trying to punch Akainu or BB and falling into their powers.
 
#14
Sorry, i dont think it will happen.

- causing damage by clawing attacks or shigan fingers is not Luffy's style, since his style is punching and kicking. Luffy didnt train himself for this style of fighting either, while in Snakeman and Boundman Luffy fits. Tankman is superior Gomu2 Balloon (pure defensive move)

- i can't imagine how to draw any clawing attacks or shigan fingers that will make explosive impacts, and usually Oda would want the most explosive scenes possible for Luffy's attacks


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What i'm proposing is Drillman, or Missileman.

The superior, G4 version of Gomu2 no Rifle. Where the compression and prelude spiral rotation is extreme, so thin and solidly compresed it looks like Luffy's arms becomes wire-thin spiraling spring-arm structure, ready to be released and recoiled at extreme speed and damage. To physically break through the impossible which is WSC. Accompanied with Penetrating CoA at the edge, Luffy will have strongest penetrating, piercing attack in the world.

GIGA.

DORRRIRRRU.


BRRRREEEAKKKEEEEEER.

Fyi if anyone want to make complete G4 mode theories out of this comment, be my guest.
 
#15
We don't know that. It might have just seemed that way because Luffy used it against fodder, however as many people have stated, he could have just done that in order to show up Eustass Kidd.
I dont follow lol

Having better control over the ability to enter in and out of G4 shows up Kidd?

but in any case, even if Luffy has better control over it, it is still an ineffective form. Luffy needs to use CoA simply to maintain boundman, meaning that he wastes haki he could otherwise be using for his attacks.
He recharges Haki when the form isnt active. Wasting Haki is not an issue for him anymore. Especially since the ability to control the flow of Haki ensures that none is wasted
 
#16
There is no new shit man...We saw Luffy training Boundman and aCoA. There is a reason Gear 4 had a 30 minute time limit vs. Doffy, Cracker, Katakuri. If he hadn't, unlimited Boundman or Snakeman would have won 1 v. 1.

Gear 4 was literally meant for the Emperors, and Oda restricted it so Doffy, Cracker, Katakuri would be competitive. Now with aCoA we'll see the full potential.
 
#17
I dont follow lol

Having better control over the ability to enter in and out of G4 shows up Kidd?
Boundman is one of his strongest forms. Hence he used it to show up his rival.

He recharges Haki when the form isnt active. Wasting Haki is not an issue for him anymore. Especially since the ability to control the flow of Haki ensures that none is wasted
What i'm saying is that instead of using haki simply to maintain G4, Luffy could focus all his haki into his attacks via ryuo. He could use the haki he would otherwise use to maintain boundman to attack.

There is no new shit man...We saw Luffy training Boundman and aCoA. There is a reason Gear 4 had a 30 minute time limit vs. Doffy, Cracker, Katakuri. If he hadn't, unlimited Boundman or Snakeman would have won 1 v. 1.

Gear 4 was literally meant for the Emperors, and Oda restricted it so Doffy, Cracker, Katakuri would be competitive. Now with aCoA we'll see the full potential.
its undeniable that G4 boundman is an inefficient form. Rayleigh said so himself. I don't see why he wouldn't try to invent something new given that he is going up against kaido.

While he did train boundman, despite using what seemed to be a new version of king kong gun, he still stated that it was a failure with Hyou stating that he strained too hard.
 
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