Future Events Major Overlooked Reason why Luffy + Zoro vs Kaido is Inevitable

nik87

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#44
Arent the ones who are now claiming that Zoro wont fight Kaido again the same ones who claimed Zoro wont fight Kaido at all? :yasu:
The fear of Zoro killing Kaido has entered their bones, they cant help themselves but try to keep Zori as far away from Kaido as possible...

nik, I dislike that you push Zori vs King agenda
If you cant beat me, join me. Zori vs King all the way! :goyea:
 
#46
(There was no Robin)
So you think Franky and Brook and Jimbei were planned to be in the crew before Robin.
She's the second most important character in the crew to find the OP.
How can two charachters who came after her planned in Wa No match-ups but not her ?
It makes no sense

All the Oden plot looks like something which Oda make only a few years ago no one ever talked about him. We have no reason to believe Scabbards were planned before SN

Thinking match-ups are prepared 20y before is absolutely insane.

I won't even read the lefts that's like all those threads assumptions based on assumptions

Luffy will fight Kaido alone he needs to progress and reach a new level after Wa no he will be recognize as a real Emperor for that he needs to overcome Kaido's strenght in a final 1v1.
That's not hard to understand

FI is ready to be on Luffy's protection, Wa No will be too and DressRosa
He will have a bigger army
Strenght is the only thing that misses (Look at BB he said it's too early and Luffy already had an army and Territories, so only strenght was lacking)

Beast pirates are just there to SH grow stronger. It explain why none of them didn't get a clean 1v1 since a long time
 
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#48
So you think Franky and Brook and Jimbei were planned to be in the crew before Robin.
She's the second most important character in the crew to find the OP.
How can two charachters who came after her planned in Wa No match-ups but not her ?
It makes no sense
Yes, Oda already Revealed his Draft & Original Sketch of Straw Hats
Jinbe & Brook & Franky were Planned since Ever
But Robin wasn't, she is a New Addition just like Vivi & Supernova & Lucci ... etc
All of these were confirmed to have been New Addition & not part of Oda's Plan when he started OP
All the Oden plot looks like something which Oda make only a few years ago no one ever talked about him. We have no reason to believe Scabbards were planned before SN
Doesn't matter if Scabbards were Planned, the point is that Wano Arc was planned +20 Years ago
And Wano obviously had it's Side of Warriors, so simply one of them is meant to Defeat a Calamity, as simple as that
I won't even read the lefts that's like all those threads assumptions based on assumptions
Don't read
 
#51
Yes, Oda already Revealed his Draft & Original Sketch of Straw Hats
Jinbe & Brook & Franky were Planned since Ever
But Robin wasn't, she is a New Addition just like Vivi & Supernova & Lucci ... etc
All of these were confirmed to have been New Addition & not part of Oda's Plan when he started OP
Brook was in. Franky and Jimbe not.


Do you think the only poneglyphs reader of the crew was just a late addition ?
That's the key of OP. Oda needs to be really dumb to plan match-ups 20y before but not how Luffy will read Poneglyphs.
Even more when match-ups aren't a constant as he can add characters to the plot
If you think a character as important as Robin was a late adding why Wa No match-ups can't be too ?


Doesn't matter if Scabbards were Planned, the point is that Wano Arc was planned +20 Years ago
And Wano obviously had it's Side of Warriors, so simply one of them is meant to Defeat a Calamity, as simple as that
How Oda can plan that one Scabbards will beat a calamity if he didn't planned them. Something inexistant will fight.
Ok
 
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#53
jack fought a new and fresh inu every 12 hours.
when i say inu i mean inu and neko
Don't care about that, Jack doesn't know there is a Second Inu until 12 Hours Passed
So for 12 Hours, Jack couldn't do shit to Inurashi

And btw both Inurashi & Kyros have "One Leg", so the comparison with Trebol, Diamante, Pica Fights are on Point:

One-Legged Top Fighter from Rebel Army Defeats One Commander for Revenge
One Straw Hat Top Fighter Defeats One Commander who was Attacking the Entire Battlefield
Third Ally who came Solo (Without Crew) Defeats One Commander who was Guarding Main Villain

This results in:

Inurashi vs Jack & Kyros vs Diamante
Sanji vs Queen & Zoro vs Pica
Marco vs King & Law vs Trebol
 
#55
This is Outdated man, here is the Real One:


Luffy, Zoro, Nami, Usopp, Sanji, Chopper, Brook & Jinbe were Created from the Start
Other Two included a Botanist & Carpenter

Carpenter Design simply was changed to make Franky
But Botanist was removed & Usopp gained that Additional Role

There was No Robin, No Second Female, No Historian, No Archeologist, No Assassin
Oda never thought about Robin or even her Role when he Created Straw Hats, she is a New Addition that he later thought of

And dude, it doesn't matter if Robin was planned or not, it doesn't change any single word i said in Opening Post
With or without Robin, Straw Hats are meant to Fight Top Officers of Kaido
While Luffy/Zoro takes on Kaido & Sanji takes on One of Kaido's Top 3
 
#56
Don't care about that, Jack doesn't know there is a Second Inu until 12 Hours Passed
So for 12 Hours, Jack couldn't do shit to Inurashi

And btw both Inurashi & Kyros have "One Leg", so the comparison with Trebol, Diamante, Pica Fights are on Point:

One-Legged Top Fighter from Rebel Army Defeats One Commander for Revenge
One Straw Hat Top Fighter Defeats One Commander who was Attacking the Entire Battlefield
Third Ally who came Solo (Without Crew) Defeats One Commander who was Guarding Main Villain

This results in:

Inurashi vs Jack & Kyros vs Diamante
Sanji vs Queen & Zoro vs Pica
Marco vs King & Law vs Trebol
but for 5 days inu and neko could not do anything to jack after getting 12 hours of rest and jack nothing.
 
#57
but for 5 days inu and neko could not do anything to jack after getting 12 hours of rest and jack nothing.
Yes, i didn't say Inu is stronger than Jack but he could do something & manage to Defeat him this time
Like let himself get Hit so that he delivers a Finishing Move & both are taken down
A Sacrifice that Inu didn't risk doing in Zou since he had Neko too

The point is that both are Same Level & couldn't beat each other for 12 Hours before
So Oda now can do anything to create a tiny opening
 
#58
You seem to be on the spot but man, Zoro vs King could have been such an awesome battle...
He would have joined Kaido fight after it anyway. I guess I am too greedy in Wano but Oda is also generous so can you blame me? :catblush:

Still sounds weird that Marco and Inuarashi get that much focus but as you said, already happened with Law and Kyros in DR...
Sad that Zoro vs King likely wont happen but I said long ago, Zoro's strength is wasted anywhere else except against the Emperors.
Good thread, still waiting for the Imu reveal one. :catpole:
nik-san, it will happen. don't listen anyone baka! :kriwhat:
 
#60
Carpenter Design simply was changed to make Franky
Carpenter is Klaubautermann. Giving Oda's fetish with Merry it's probably not Franky.
Oda probably let down this Idea to add Franky
https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2021/26/2/1624972027-3012906243-1-3-f5s9foqg.jpg

But Botanist was removed & Usopp gained that Additional Role
Ussop isn't a Botanist is official role is marksman
There was No Robin, No Second Female, No Historian, No Archeologist, No Assassin
Oda never thought about Robin or even her Role when he Created Straw Hats, she is a New Addition that he later thought of

And dude, it doesn't matter if Robin was planned or not, it doesn't change any single word i said in Opening Post
With or without Robin, Straw Hats are meant to Fight Top Officers of Kaido
While Luffy/Zoro takes on Kaido & Sanji takes on One of Kaido's Top 3
It changes everything if you assume Oda can add important charachter like Robin because he tought off later you can't in the same time think he planned small details like match-ups. Even more when match-ups depends on characters.
 
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