Character Discussion Marco and King the Smoothie of their respective crews๐Ÿคต

Do marco and king have conquerors haki?

  • No. Ace and yamato are the only ones

    Votes: 10 43.5%
  • Yes. Yonko having more than 1 shouldn't be surprising

    Votes: 13 56.5%

  • Total voters
    23
#1
Ive been waiting for years for it to be finally confirmed that marco has coc but the more time passes the less likely it looks with kings chances looking just as bad if not worse. So ima jump the gun now rather than wait till its confirm confirmed either way

  1. Each yonko crew seems to only have 1 conqueror under them outside of the captain
    • Linlin has katakuri
    • Kaido has yamato
    • Newgate had ace
      • Oden was under him but left before wb became a yonko and before ace so im not counting him
  2. Each conqueror seems to have significantly more potential than anyone else within the crew
  3. Each crews dynamic isnt as simple as each crew having yonko commander level 1, 2, and 3 and that being the hierarchy
    • Ace while he was the second division commander arguably wasn't even the second strongest pre timeskip. And had he not died with his extremely fast growth rate hed definitely be stronger than marco already. Man was able to stalemate jinbe of all people as a rookie. The wbp weren't even given numbers based on strength they were pretty much just random. Oden the previous 2nd dc is obviously than 1st dc Marco, 5th dc vista over 4dc thatch, etc etc
    • Katakuri while a sweet commander just like smoothie, cracker, and even snack was as big moms strongest children is put on so much of a higher pedestal than anyone else just based off his strength alone him sharing a title with some of his other siblings doesn't really change that. Especially when there isn't anything above that and big mom doesn't seem like the type of person that really respects her kids much lol. With his 48 year undefeated streak before luffy and fs he's clear
    • Yamato isn't even technically apart of the beast pirates not really having a title like all star or even tobiroppo but that really doesn't stop him from very obviously being kaidos ace. Even fighting his wbp counterpart someone literally named ace lol. With the only mythical zoan outside of kaido and able to imbue coc into attacks yamato also clears awell
  4. So basically until it is actually confirmed marco even king have coc theyre the smoothie of their respective crews ๐Ÿคต. Even more likely depending on how similar or not perospero and jack do against the dukes
  5. If they do end up having it having 2 conquerors under them it just might not be as rare as many thought. Tho potential wise they still not stacking up at least when it comes to ace vs marco and yamato vs king. If big mom had another kid with it than 50/50 if has more potential than kata
    • The only crews that we 100% had more than 1 are:
      • Xebec with wb, bm, and, kaido (most likely shiki too but not confirmed)
      • Roger with rayleigh, oden, and shanks (tho we technically dont know when he unlocked it)
      • Newgate with oden and ace but again at separate times
 
#7
Kaido has Joker. He's the official card of the crew. Remember for Oden, he had his own crew too, and then later dipped.



Roger -> Rayleigh
Whitebeard -> Oden
Kaido -> Joker
Big Mom -> Katakuri

Yamato is the Ace of the crew, not the Oden.
Ace>Joker
Plus Doffy is hyped to be tricky not powerful

Kaido has Ace : Yamato and Joker : Doffy
WB had Ace and Oden
BM has Katakuri
Roger had Ray
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Ive been waiting for years for it to be finally confirmed that marco has coc but the more time passes the less likely it looks with kings chances looking just as bad if not worse. So ima jump the gun now rather than wait till its confirm confirmed either way

  1. Each yonko crew seems to only have 1 conqueror under them outside of the captain
    • Linlin has katakuri
    • Kaido has yamato
    • Newgate had ace
      • Oden was under him but left before wb became a yonko and before ace so im not counting him
  2. Each conqueror seems to have significantly more potential than anyone else within the crew
  3. Each crews dynamic isnt as simple as each crew having yonko commander level 1, 2, and 3 and that being the hierarchy
    • Ace while he was the second division commander arguably wasn't even the second strongest pre timeskip. And had he not died with his extremely fast growth rate hed definitely be stronger than marco already. Man was able to stalemate jinbe of all people as a rookie. The wbp weren't even given numbers based on strength they were pretty much just random. Oden the previous 2nd dc is obviously than 1st dc Marco, 5th dc vista over 4dc thatch, etc etc
    • Katakuri while a sweet commander just like smoothie, cracker, and even snack was as big moms strongest children is put on so much of a higher pedestal than anyone else just based off his strength alone him sharing a title with some of his other siblings doesn't really change that. Especially when there isn't anything above that and big mom doesn't seem like the type of person that really respects her kids much lol. With his 48 year undefeated streak before luffy and fs he's clear
    • Yamato isn't even technically apart of the beast pirates not really having a title like all star or even tobiroppo but that really doesn't stop him from very obviously being kaidos ace. Even fighting his wbp counterpart someone literally named ace lol. With the only mythical zoan outside of kaido and able to imbue coc into attacks yamato also clears awell
  4. So basically until it is actually confirmed marco even king have coc theyre the smoothie of their respective crews ๐Ÿคต. Even more likely depending on how similar or not perospero and jack do against the dukes
  5. If they do end up having it having 2 conquerors under them it just might not be as rare as many thought. Tho potential wise they still not stacking up at least when it comes to ace vs marco and yamato vs king. If big mom had another kid with it than 50/50 if has more potential than kata
    • The only crews that we 100% had more than 1 are:
      • Xebec with wb, bm, and, kaido (most likely shiki too but not confirmed)
      • Roger with rayleigh, oden, and shanks (tho we technically dont know when he unlocked it)
      • Newgate with oden and ace but again at separate times
BTW
Welcome back Albino!

People will soon accept it that King and Marco are just Smoothie level with zoan fruits
 
#9
Kaido has Joker. He's the official card of the crew. Remember for Oden, he had his own crew too, and then later dipped.



Roger -> Rayleigh
Whitebeard -> Oden
Kaido -> Joker
Big Mom -> Katakuri

Yamato is the Ace of the crew, not the Oden.
Tbf ace's ceiling was likley higher than odens
How would you compare yamato, doffy, and the and the all stars to other top tier crews? Like do other yonko have their own members that equate to those 5?
 

Finalbeta

Science Nerd ๐ŸŒŒ ๐ŸŒ ๐Ÿงฌ โš›๏ธ
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#10
There's no substantial reason to believe Marco is a CoC user on a serious note for now, as he did never show up in so much time expecially at the present moment where Oda could have very well portrayed it; though a chance is that perhaps he wished to spare it in order to spare King's as well to make him unleash it against Zoro. I see this as possible but not necessarily likely, less likely that he simply didn't use it I guess unless it was just basic CoC.
 

Jiihad

Pain to tha Worldโ€ฆ.
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#19
If marco and king end up havin coc im more than willing to change my thoughts on them but until that point ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™€๏ธ
Either way I made a poll

@Jiihad @TheAncientCenturion what do yall think theyre actual chances of having it? And if they don't would that change your thoughts on them? On a power scaling front not an actual character way
Personally ion think Marco has it๐Ÿคท๐Ÿพโ€โ™‚๏ธ It wonโ€™t really change my thoughts on Marco simply cause CoC isnโ€™t tha end all be all lol

Shiki doesnโ€™t have CoC, heโ€™s 1 of tha 3 great Pirates from back then with PrimeBeard and Roger. Mihawk isnโ€™t a CoC user(to our knowledge) and he wipes his ass with Katakuri
 

TheAncientCenturion

I'll never forgive you Oda
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#20
If marco and king end up havin coc im more than willing to change my thoughts on them but until that point ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™€๏ธ
Either way I made a poll

@Jiihad @TheAncientCenturion what do yall think theyre actual chances of having it? And if they don't would that change your thoughts on them? On a power scaling front not an actual character way
Pretty embarrassing if 2 guys without CoC are stronger than Kata with it.
 
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