Character Discussion Oda had to exclude Zoro from WCI because he was too strong

Whoever can't stand Zoro's wanking or even just his greatness has in all likelihood got to wait for this arc to come close to its end and hope that Zoro won't get another major demonstration of power until the Final War.
In reality, Zoro is not having as much prominence as many of you think. After all, he's on the roof with four other characters. And one of them is Luffy, the main character.
 
In reality, Zoro is not having as much prominence as many of you think. After all, he's on the roof with four other characters. And one of them is Luffy, the main character.
Of course he is the main character but there's a driving misconception about this notion. We saw different series in which main characters would not shine the most in every single arc and so far strong elements seem to be siding more towards such direction. Nonetheless this is not necessarily mandatory and Oda could very well portray shared greatness, in general albeit this is team work it seems that someone is naturally consistently leading, hence Oda would probably keep up with the trend.
 
Zoro was in Dressrosa and, instead of creating a second Doflamingo or putting him against Fujitora as his serious versus, he got Pica. I can't believe some of you guys truly believe Zoro would have changed Whole Cake Island's plot from a escape to an actual confrontation (and, on top of that, I highly doubt he could do anything of actual relevance to Linlin an arc before Wano and without Enma). Zoro, just like any other character, performs as strong as the plot and what Oda wants to draw demands.
 
Zoro was in Dressrosa and, instead of creating a second Doflamingo or putting him against Fujitora as his serious versus, he got Pica. I can't believe some of you guys truly believe Zoro would have changed Whole Cake Island's plot from a escape to an actual confrontation (and, on top of that, I highly doubt he could do anything of actual relevance to Linlin an arc before Wano and without Enma). Zoro, just like any other character, performs as strong as the plot and what Oda wants to draw demands.
Zoro wasn't allowed to fight Doffy because he would have beat him. Zoro had an even clash Fujitora.

Zoro destroyed Pica and still haven't showed his full power yet.

Zoro would have made a big difference in WCI. He would destroyed Cracker.
 
Zoro wasn't allowed to fight Doffy because he would have beat him. Zoro had an even clash Fujitora.

Zoro destroyed Pica and still haven't showed his full power yet.

Zoro would have made a big difference in WCI. He would destroyed Cracker.
The point isn't whether Zoro wasn't allowed to fight Doflamingo because he would have beat him (very debatable) nor his "even clash" with Fujitora ("even": Fujitora was fine, Zoro was damaged).

The point is that, in spite of these headcanons of yours, Oda never made the slightest effort to give Zoro an actual versus comparable in strength to Doflamingo or Fujitora. Why? Because, first of all, Zoro probably wasn't as strong as you may think in Dressrosa, and second, Zoro took the role Oda gave him without taking into consideration any "power level" clue some people here are obsessed with; hence why he wouldn't have made a big difference in Whole Cake: because the plot didn't necessarily require him to do so and he'd arguably end up just another member of the escape plot.

I mean, it's not a coincidence that he's getting to participate precisely now in a fight aganist the emperors: it isn't about him being stronger or weaker, it's about him being a member of the Worst Generation and Oda wanting to pull a "old versus new" with his plot. This situation is possibly not strength-driven and what Zoro gets out of this exceptional scenario, and what Oda consciously gives him on a regular basis, are lesser (and weaker) enemies than the main (and strongest) villains.
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
The point isn't whether Zoro wasn't allowed to fight Doflamingo because he would have beat him (very debatable) nor his "even clash" with Fujitora ("even": Fujitora was fine, Zoro was damaged).

The point is that, in spite of these headcanons of yours, Oda never made the slightest effort to give Zoro an actual versus comparable in strength to Doflamingo or Fujitora. Why? Because, first of all, Zoro probably wasn't as strong as you may think in Dressrosa, and second, Zoro took the role Oda gave him without taking into consideration any "power level" clue some people here are obsessed with; hence why he wouldn't have made a big difference in Whole Cake: because the plot didn't necessarily require him to do so and he'd arguably end up just another member of the escape plot.

I mean, it's not a coincidence that he's getting to participate precisely now in a fight aganist the emperors: it isn't about him being stronger or weaker, it's about him being a member of the Worst Generation and Oda wanting to pull a "old versus new" with his plot. This situation is possibly not strength-driven and what Zoro gets out of this exceptional scenario, and what Oda consciously gives him on a regular basis, are lesser (and weaker) enemies than the main (and strongest) villains.
this is so bullshit

theres 3 other sn below who aint fighting yonko all 3 are captains too

zoro is up there because of his STRENGTH

what debate is there anymore ? zoro claps doffy

zoro clashed with fuji twice in dressrosa and wanted a third time
 
this is so bullshit

theres 3 other sn below who aint fighting yonko all 3 are captains too

zoro is up there because of his STRENGTH

what debate is there anymore ? zoro claps doffy

zoro clashed with fuji twice in dressrosa and wanted a third time
Out of those three, one is a villain, the other is missing in action and the other has been occupied helping people against a virus. And don't get me wrong, strength is a factor, but I doubt it's the driven factor behind this scenario; hence why this is pretty much the only time Zoro is facing enemies of such caliber instead of a second class villain and, coincidentally, this is also the only time Oda gets to build a scenario of generations clashing. You can freely believe this isn't the main reason why Zoro is up there; we will have to disagree.

There's debate because three arcs have passed since Dressrosa and characters not only grow stronger in the middle of arcs (as stated by Zoro himself, in case it isn't obvious from a narrative perspective) but he got a new sword which is stressed to be abnormal and had the time to train himself with it and for this battle. There's no logical ground for you to assume Zoro would have clapped Doflamingo back then on the basis of the current events; that's not how this works.

Zoro was clearly unable to defeat Fujitora. Their only relevant encounter ended up with the former huffing and bleeding from just a gravity push and the latter completely fine. And it's okay, Dressrosa Zoro doesn't need to be that strong, that's completely counternarrative in a shonen of long projection based on the growth of its characters during their journey.
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
Out of those three, one is a villain, the other is missing in action and the other has been occupied helping people against a virus. And don't get me wrong, strength is a factor, but I doubt it's the driven factor behind this scenario; hence why this is pretty much the only time Zoro is facing enemies of such caliber instead of a second class villain and, coincidentally, this is also the only time Oda gets to build a scenario of generations clashing. You can freely believe this isn't the main, plot driven reason why Zoro is up there; we will have to disagree.
drake switched sides
didnt go up

apoo a captain didnt go up

hawkins same didnt go up

the reason zoro is there is because he has an arc full of build up to go fight kaido.

There's debate because three arcs have passed since Dressrosa and characters not only grow stronger in the middle of arcs (as stated by Zoro himself) but he got a new sword which is stressed to be abnormal and had the time to train himself with it and for this battle. There's no logical ground for you to assume Zoro would have clapped Doflamingo back then on the basis of the current events; that's not how this works.
no they dont get boosts from island to island if they dont fight
not one of them got stronger from dressrosa to zou just because they sailed around
that sword is a non factor here
he got that sword to fight 2 yonko
doflamingo is a bug to said yonko
its a more ridiculous notion
to say he went from weaker to doflamingo to be able to do what hes done/will do on the roof just to a sword when the level needed to beat doffy is tiers below

Zoro was clearly unable to defeat Fujitora. Their only relevant encounter ended up with the former huffing and bleeding from just a gravity push and the latter completely fine. And it's okay, Dressrosa Zoro doesn't need to be that strong, that's completely counternarrative in a shonen of long projection based on the growth of its characters during their journey.
no their first encounter ended after zoro was caught unaware with fujis gravity yet still with 1 sword over powered it and sent fuji flying back
then they had a second clash where zoro used 2 swords
then after seeing fujis raging tiger send luffy flying he wanted to fight him a 3rd time
theres nothing unfavorable there for zoro
 
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