General & Others Next Strawhat Crew Members and the Grand Fleet

[Yasheen]

Still no:





Well... I can't wait :)


Well, not really, it was not focused enough on Momo for me. But it's close enough yeah.

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Also concerning Tama (I' haven't read everything) there is only ONE world where Tama joins, it's that if MOMO joins as well. Tama and Momo have been linked throughout the arc, where one goes, the other followed. At this point Tama is like a young reteiner for Momo but also one of his best friend.

So if Momo goes with them, expect Tama to sneak on board as well. Not only that, but expect Tama to do the same thing Momo has: Using the mature mature fruit of Shinobu to grow.

Momo is a 28 year old man with a dragon devil fruit. Tama is still a child. If oda wanted Tama to join he’ll age her but oda isn’t going to have a child be a wanted pirate.

 

[Random_Kurozumi]

He did, go check the page of Luffy's promise again, Ace promised to return and make Wano a place where she can eat all she wanted, he promised to take her then IF she had grown up into a bewitching Kunoichi, those are 2 different promises

He didn't, there's only one promise.

 

[Monkey D Al]

Just so you guyz know:

Here are the three next way Carrot could be confirmed:

A - A reaction from Carrot on the victory of Luffy + a flash back of Pedro: This would confirm that Carrot is linking her future to Luffy and Pedro's words. Basically, it has to happen next chaptern after that it will be too late.

If that doesn't happen the next thing to look up for would be:

B - A couple of panel focused on Carrot doing a introspection during the Banquet or between now and the departure of the SH: Carrot was defeated and humiliated.. there is therefore high chances for her to self-reflect on her capacities. If that happens, it will also be a confirmation as Carrot would be linking her capacities toward the future and her life on the seas. This focusing can also take the form of a discussion with an ally (Wanda or Nekomamushi). In other word if there is a questionnement from Carrot's part about herself, the seas, Pedro's words or the SH, this will be the confirmation that Oda is preparing Carrot to join the crew.

If that doesn't happen the next thing to look up for would be:

C - The very end of the arc: I've talked about that HERE. Basically the very end of the arc will be the last moment for Carrot to join by sneaking on the ship. If Carrot is seen on the ship (willingly or not), this will confirm a future recrutment. If not.. This will be the end of the theory.


Those three moments would confirm Carrot as a future crewmate. To sum up.. any couple of panel focusing mainly on Carrot would be a confirmation. For two reasons:

1. Because Oda would have no reason to do those if the story of Carrot was finished
2. Because those are potential setups for a development

Just so you guys know.
if those 3 things don’t happen. But something else happens, if she just appears in one panel doing some random shit. Like dancing during the party.
he will take those as confirmations for carrot as a future Nakama.

 

[IIskandar1997]

He didn't, there's only one promise.

 

[Random_Kurozumi]

You're just proving my point that it was never emphasised as a promise (in clear contrast with the one I posted)
That's just Tama seeing Luffy as the second coming of Ace.
Which strengthens my point of her joining

 

[IIskandar1997]

You're just proving my point that it was never emphasised as a promise

What? How is that not a promise? And it happens right after Luffy promised the exact same thing

 

[CarrotForNakama]

That's just simply not true.
You're attempting to reverse engineer the "Tama and Momo will parallel Shanks and Buggy" theory

No, this has nothing to do with Buggy and Shanks, this has to do with the cahracterization of Tama throughout the arc, whivh indicate CLEARLY that Tama wants to protect Momo.

It's non negociable, if Momo Joins, Tama will follow.

On top of that, one of the few exchanges they had during Act 2 was Tama refusing to use the right onorificts and acknowledge Momo as her superior

Just like she should, Tama is like Luffy on that parameter, it doesn't mean that she doesn't want to be with him. Just that she is disrespectfull

Saying that Tama is linked to Momo just sounds desingenuous when Yamato is the one that has spent more than half her paneltime with him.

Tama is foundamentaly linked to Momo, by the characterization, the story and the situations. This has nothing to do with Yamato.

Momo is a 28 year old man with a dragon devil fruit. Tama is still a child. If oda wanted Tama to join he’ll age her but oda isn’t going to have a child be a wanted pirate.

If Momo joins, you can expect Tama to grow just like him.

if those 3 things don’t happen. But something else happens, if she just appears in one panel doing some random shit. Like dancing during the party.

No. dancing is not enough. Showing carrot won't be enough. It has to be a focus on the character.

 

[solis]

No, this has nothing to do with Buggy and Shanks, this has to do with the cahracterization of Tama throughout the arc, whivh indicate CLEARLY that Tama wants to protect Momo.

It's non negociable, if Momo Joins, Tama will follow.




Just like she should, Tama is like Luffy on that parameter, it doesn't mean that she doesn't want to be with him. Just that she is disrespectfull




Tama is foundamentaly linked to Momo, by the characterization, the story and the situations. This has nothing to do with Yamato.



If Momo joins, you can expect Tama to grow just like him.



No. dancing is not enough. Showing carrot won't be enough. It has to be a focus on the character.

Won't join tho

 

[Random_Kurozumi]

What? How is that not a promise?

compare it to:

He didn't, there's only one promise.

Tama is foundamentaly linked to Momo, by the characterization, the story and the situations. This has nothing to do with Yamato.

You mean the're a both kids and... that it? but Momo isn't a kid anymore so...
What characterization are you on about?
Her realtionship with luffy is way more important then with Momo
Again, all of Act 1 and Act 3 was Tama being with the strawhats
and even when she and Momo (and Chopper) were toguether in Act2 the main thing on her mind was saving Luffy from Udon

Just like she should, Tama is like Luffy on that parameter, it doesn't mean that she doesn't want to be with him. Just that she is disrespectfull

Just like she should?? A reteinner shouldn't be disrespectfull.

 

[SeaTonnes]

why isnt caribou in the poll mid thread

 

[CarrotForNakama]

You mean the're a both kids and... that it? but Momo isn't a kid anymore so...
What characterization are you on about?

It's a dynamic thing. Oda has been consciously putting Tama and Momo as (almost) unseparable opposite entity. When Momo cries, Tama is cheerful, when Momo is afraid, Tama is careless etc. Etc. That's a siblings trope Oda has been using a lot in the past (ex: Carrot & Chopper who are very diffferent in front of situations but still incredibly close)

The thing to understand is that this dynamic serves as a catalysis for both characterization and future.

Both kids have a strong desire: Momo wants to be Shogun and Tama a kunoichi. So.. Oda would be wise not to break that dynamic and I think he won't. Tama has been created as the representation of the "people" side of the Country while Momo is the representation of it's history. That's why both must act in tandem.

So.. if Momo decides to travel to learn about power and his importance.. Tama will instantly follow, the thing is, Tama is too young physically so it's possible that Oda will do the same thing he did with Momo: Grow.

Honestly I'm not a huge fan of that possibility but it could bring some cool and funny moments.

Right now, Momo is unlikely to join the crew, but if it had to happens there would be a LOT of new Nakama

Just like she should?? A reteinner shouldn't be disrespectfull.

In feodal Japan.. yes. But One Piece is anarchist/revolutionnary. So it's logical that the closer you get to someone with Power, the more likely you are to question their power. Tama is like Luffy on that front, she cares about Momo, so she will probably try to protect him with her life, but she doesn't care about his status.

 

[Random_Kurozumi]

So you're saying that they haven't really interacted much and are nothing alike...
that must mean that they're meant to be a pair
and that she doesn't respect his authority...
which means that she'll become his follower.

I can see how this kind of logic would lead one to believe that Carrot is the most likely candidate for strawhat

 

[CarrotForNakama]

So you're saying that they haven't really interacted much and are nothing alike...

Wrong. I'm saying that Momo and Tama are complementary.

I can see how this kind of logic would lead one to believe that Carrot is the most likely candidate for strawhat

This is a basic narrative logic mate. The more the character are complementary, the most likely you will see them together.

 

[MonsterKaido]

Larrot was barely relevant in wano

She had one job but was told to eat grass

 

[Topi Jerami]

I'm really not sure what Oda's plan for Yamato is at this point. Luffy just defeated Kaido, Yamato's father who was holding her back all these years, and Yamato was just yelling at Momo the entire fight. It didn't really feel like the story was emphasizing her here, and that's strange considering that she might become a main character

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Compare that to when Luffy beat Lucci and the story emphasized Robin's reaction to Luffy's victory

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Or in the climax of the Arlong fight when we got this page of Nami's relief at seeing Luffy destroy the place of her oppression

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It feels strange that Momo got emphasized more in this chapter than Yamato if she's gonna be the next Strawhat.

It is actually simple. Contrary to popular belief (only popular in this circus show thread), Yamao is actually going to join Nine Red Scabbards, replacing Kanjuro.
Of course she is always bonding with her new ruler.

 

[Random_Kurozumi]

This is a basic narrative logic mate. The more the character are complementary, the most likely you will see them together.

That explains why we're seeing Momo and Yamato together so much

You claim to be some type of english literature expert, but you don't even realize that Carrot doesn't even rhyme with Nakama.
Yamato spelled backwards is Otama, so at least she has that going for her .

 

[CarrotForNakama]

You claim to be some type of english literature expert

I'm not an expert and will most likely never be one. I'm just trying to put my knowledge into the craft. I'm just an analyst.

That explains why we're seeing Momo and Yamato together so much

Indeed. Yamato and Momo are very complementary. That's why for the moment, I don't think Momo will follow Luffy. Simply because the trio Momo / Tama / Yamato is bound to stay together.

 

[solis]

Simply because the trio Momo / Tama / Yamato is bound to stay together.

you forgot Toko

 

[Peroroncino]

Yamato never even met tama but they're both part of the same trio somehow.
Anyway neither yamato nor carrot are joining.

 

[solis]

Yamato never even met tama but they're both part of the same trio somehow.
Anyway neither yamato nor carrot are joining.

But Raizo will