Who will be the next Strawhat


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Yeah but the thing about protecting country is not a simple matter especially against WG. We knew that CP0 was asking wano to open its border but got rejected by orochi who has kaido on his back.



There's a lot of question about that, will cp0 be deceived by momo dragon? and will they be afraid of momo? Is kaido equals to momo in cp0 eyes? or maybe kaido offspring existence can help to scare them? Will opening wano declaration stop WG desire?
Is this Orochi hybrid in the picture. :bamathink:
 
That's not what I said. Everyone knows how important Laugh Tale is. I asked how does Yamao know that Luffy is on a journey that will change the world? Luffy and the crew are just looking for treasure. Jinbe and Robin are the only ones with a real understanding of just important their journey truly is and how the world will change from it.

Whilst Yamao knows Luffy is the man Oden was waiting for to beat Kaido since Oden put that in the journal, that's as far as her statements have gone. Post a panel akin to these for Yamao.
The only thing Yamao's said regarding the world and the new dawn is of course Momo related.
So using your own logic from your original point, Yamao knows Momo has an imperative mission to change the world by guiding it to the dawn, so why would she not go with him?
Because Momo ain't Pirate King material. Yamato is only helping Momo because she read Oden's journal, but she ain't gonna shed tears for him like she did for Luffy. Your intentionally leaving that part out. Yamato only cares about Momo for the plot and the prophecy that Oden wrote in the journal, beyond that Yamato could give two shits about Momo. There is nothing that ties Yamato to Momo and even she herself knows and admits that. She ain't part of Toki's prophecy that pirates would come to liberate Wano 20 years in the future, she ain't one of Oden's scarrabs and retainers.

Its why she had the whole Oden gimmick in the first place. And the reason why she wants to help Momo in the first place is because of her own selfish desire to do something important in the take down of Kaido, all because of a promise she gave to the samurai that she was locked up in together that they paid their lives for to keep her alive and free her so she can take part in the take down of Kaido.

Oda spelled out exactly what he's gonna to with Yamato this arc in chapter 1024:

First she's gonna help the alliance fight and defeat Kaido, keeping her promise to the samurai.



Then she will head out to sea to get stronger, and she can only do that by joining Luffy's crew.



Your also forgetting this panel, you can harp on all the Oden Momo wanking you like, there isn't a single panel like this where Yamato is bought to tears by just Luffy's words.



Compare that to Yamato bonking Momo on the head, and you see the stark difference in respect that Yamato has for Luffy compared to Momo.



Yamato dares to give Momo orders then immediately abandons him again, like she had before when she left Momo and Shinobu alone.

She even oversteps Momo's discontent of Luffy's orders and is directly helping Luffy by forcing Momo to do what's he's told by Luffy at Momo's displeasure.



All the while, not once has Yamato defied Luffy's orders



Yamato respects the prophecy, not Momo, its not the same kind nor level of respect that Yamato has for Luffy, not even close.
 
After Yamao's utterly underwhelming df reveal people were still holding out for her full zoan form reveal to be a moment that wasn't completely half assed. But Oda decided to make that moment an even more forgettable, every day occurrence. xD The only striking thing about it being how fucking hideous that canine rat looks.

It's extremely clear which transformation Oda was far, far more invested in making a big deal.
One's given all the significance of a future straw hat's first power reveal. The other literally couldn't be more bare bones if Oda tried.

The only interesting thing that come out Yamao's transformation is the similarity to another dog we've seen this arc.
Ushimaru was a Wano lord and he travelled around with a trusty canine companion at his side. This could be a nice parallel to Momo, future shogun, travelling around with his own canine in Yamao.

Just visually, Yamao and Onimaru are already extremely similar so I wonder if this was done intentionally. Not to mention that Yamao actually met Ushimaru in the cave and he looked after her.
You say this as if Oda doesn't care enough about Yamato to give her panels, but she's in the top 5 in the raid in terms of panel time. She was top 3, but Zoro probably passed her in the last couple chapters. Meanwhile Carrot has less than Raizo. I really don't think you want to play the "Oda doesn't bother with this character" game with us.
 
Your point was meaningless. Importance and relevancy does not relate necessaraly to the panel time, but it relates in all ways to the treatment of a character. YamaO is treated as a secondary character, not as a potential crewmate. You can see that one single panel for both characters.

One in shown in a trio manner large medium face. With added layer of extra character commenting the extraordinar transformation.

The other is a simple backshot.

You can see the difference of treatment EVEN in the drawing itself where in the design of Carrot in Sulong Oda was much more careful with his ink work.
 

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There is a clear difference of treatment between those two reveal. denying that is naive .. at best. If you want to play, i'm gonna play.




Then you're saying Momonosuke is joining instead of Carrot since his power reveal was presented as more important and he's actually revelant to the current plot.

We really back to shutting down mundane, entry level points for Carrot....
 
Your point was meaningless. Importance and relevancy does not relate necessaraly to the panel time, but it relates in all ways to the treatment of a character. YamaO is treated as a secondary character, not as a potential crewmate. You can see that one single panel for both characters.

One in shown in a trio manner large medium face. With added layer of extra character commenting the extraordinar transformation.

The other is a simple backshot.

You can see the difference of treatment EVEN in the drawing itself where in the design of Carrot in Sulong Oda was much more careful with his ink work.
Are you seriously arguing that Carrot is treated as a primary character and Yamato as secondary? So far in the raid, Yamato has

1. Clashed with Ulti and Sasaki
2. Had a long conversation with Luffy where she asked to join his crew
3. Had her shackles of 20 years broken
4. Rescued Momo and Shinobu
5. Had a flashback with Ace where it was revealed that she made the vivre card that brought Luffy to Impel Down and Marineford
6. Explained a whole ton of lore
7. Stalled Kaido in an epic showcase of her mythical zoan powers (all on panel)
8. Had a tragic backstory flashback where her life was saved by Zoro's father
9. Declared she would join the crew again
10. Is now heading off to destroy the explosives in order to save onigashima and the flower capital.

Carrot has

1. Gotten off paneled by Perospero in a 2v1 with Wanda
2. Oops that's it.

Just because Carrot got an awesome double spread in the last story arc doesn't change all of that.
 

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Your point was meaningless. Importance and relevancy does not relate necessaraly to the panel time, but it relates in all ways to the treatment of a character. YamaO is treated as a secondary character, not as a potential crewmate. You can see that one single panel for both characters.

One in shown in a trio manner large medium face. With added layer of extra character commenting the extraordinar transformation.

The other is a simple backshot.

You can see the difference of treatment EVEN in the drawing itself where in the design of Carrot in Sulong Oda was much more careful with his ink work.
Yamato is treated as a secondary character? Then Carrot is completely irrelevant since she's been completely separated from the main conflict of Wano. She has yet to even go inside the castle and her most notable moment is getting off screened by Perospero.

Carrot is a nothing character according to your own logic
 
Your point was meaningless. Importance and relevancy does not relate necessaraly to the panel time, but it relates in all ways to the treatment of a character. YamaO is treated as a secondary character, not as a potential crewmate. You can see that one single panel for both characters.

One in shown in a trio manner large medium face. With added layer of extra character commenting the extraordinar transformation.

The other is a simple backshot.

You can see the difference of treatment EVEN in the drawing itself where in the design of Carrot in Sulong Oda was much more careful with his ink work.
Then your point is way more meaningless. One panel of power reveal does not relate to the plot & importance of the story, especially that we all know what Yamato does in Onigashima is way more important than Larrot’s power reveal where all what she did was stalling unknown Daifuku’s ship, and she immediately exhausted afterwards. What has Larrot done in Onigashima? Basically nothing. All she does is calling “Nekomamushi-sama!” In small irrelevant panel shared with Wanda.

As long as I think I’m pretty crazy enough to think that Monet is still alive, I always remember that there are Larrot fans. Just for 2 cents: get a grip on the current reality

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Are you seriously arguing that Carrot is treated as a primary character and Yamato as secondary? So far in the raid, Yamato has

1. Clashed with Ulti and Sasaki
2. Had a long conversation with Luffy where she asked to join his crew
3. Had her shackles of 20 years broken
4. Rescued Momo and Shinobu
5. Had a flashback with Ace where it was revealed that she made the vivre card that brought Luffy to Impel Down and Marineford
6. Explained a whole ton of lore
7. Stalled Kaido in an epic showcase of her mythical zoan powers (all on panel)
8. Had a tragic backstory flashback where her life was saved by Zoro's father
9. Declared she would join the crew again
10. Is now heading off to destroy the explosives in order to save onigashima and the flower capital.

Carrot has

1. Gotten off paneled by Perospero in a 2v1 with Wanda
2. Oops that's it.

Just because Carrot got an awesome double spread in the last story arc doesn't change all of that.
I might as well add no 11 for Yamato: sharing a joined attack with Luffy in awesome double spread
 
If my 4 poneglyph nakama theory ends up coming true i think the next nakama will either be a giant or 3 eyes maybe cause im guessing one of them originally had a poneglyph

So
  1. Someone from Fishman island (jinbe)
  2. Someone from wano
    • If its on the main land momonosuke (please 🙏)
    • If its not aka onigashima yamato
  3. Someone from zou
    • Carrot i guess tho ill always have a soft spot for pekoms
  4. Someone from elbaf or wherever the 3 eyes are from possibly
    • Maybe pudding in a similar way that toki was apart of odens crews or some new character
    • If giant definitely a new character. Side note even tho i knew it made no sense even when i saw it because it was film z filler episodes i low key used to want lily to join because of her design and fun attitude lol
 
Damn, I don't know how this quoting mecanism works..

No Van I'm saying only that importance does not equal panel time, and you are right, Momo is more important than Yamato right now. But we need more to be considered a potential crewmate and Momo lacks what Carrot has.

Sigran101 No again. That's not What I'm saying. Don't put words in others mouth please, it's disrespectfull. Carrot is STILL treated as a secondary character in Wano's arc. But this doesn't change a thing about her overall importancy to the overall story. This is not what didn't happen that matter, it's what DID happened.


JoSeungHun7335 Yes it does.
One panel is enough to point out how Oda treats a characters is a SPECIFIC situation. In other words in two seperate but similar situation Oda treated Carrot as a protagonist worthy of praise and wonder and Yamao as a simple cool secondary protagonist. The difference in treatment is clear.







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If you think you can scratch what Oda did in an arc just because it was the PREVIOUS arc.

You don't understand a THING about One Piece.
 
Damn, I don't know how this quoting mecanism works..

No Van I'm saying only that importance does not equal panel time, and you are right, Momo is more important than Yamato right now. But we need more to be considered a potential crewmate and Momo lacks what Carrot has.

Sigran101 No again. That's not What I'm saying. Don't put words in others mouth please, it's disrespectfull. Carrot is STILL treated as a secondary character in Wano's arc. But this doesn't change a thing about her overall importancy to the overall story. This is not what didn't happen that matter, it's what DID happened.


JoSeungHun7335 Yes it does. One panel is enough to point out how Oda treats a characters is a SPECIFIC situation. In other words in two seperate but similar situation Oda treated Carrot as a protagonist worthy of praise and wonder and Yamao as a simple cool secondary protagonist. The difference in treatment is clear.







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If you think you can scratch what Oda did in an arc just because it was the PREVIOUS arc.

You don't understand a THING about One Piece.
Lmao "that's disrespectful" says the user saying Yamao just to be obnoxious:milaugh:

What exactly is Carrot's overall importance to the story? Because I brought up quite a few examples of Yamato being important to the overall story. You can't really be arguing that Carrot is important to the story purely because she got a double spread can you? Keep in mind Yamato got a double spread when she was first introduced one shotting Ulti and again in an epic team attack with Luffy.
 
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