General & Others Next Strawhat Crew Members and the Grand Fleet

[Pot Goblin]

The way Yamato inspires Momo to be brave and face even the toughest challenge in the world head on feels like yet another SHP moment…haters will say it’s fake, but damn, there’s no way in hell the person who does THIS for the future shogun isn’t joining Luffy’s crew:

This chapter was a pretty big win for both Carrot and Yamato fans. Yamato got a really cool character moment showing off her guts. And Carrot got another transition panel showing that she'll at least be in the same area as the fight against Kaido. Opening the door wide open for potential moments.


Speaking of Yamato's moment, one quality that I'm really starting to appreciate about her is just how mentally tough she is. She's faced a lot of obstacles since she's been introduced yet she has not cracked under the pressure at all. She's shown to be extremely reliable in dangerous and chaotic situations.

 

[Topi Jerami]

Yeah this chapter really confirms Yamao's future role as Momo's advisor.
When she finally gives a speech, it is directed toward Momo. When she makes a bond, it is with Momo.

Fanboys will say "but but scabbards but Kinemon" yet where are they during Momo's hardest time? They all are missing, only his new guardian bitch there with him.

When Momo is in despair, who is now conforting him? Kinemon? The dukes? No, it is always Yamao doing the same job, babysitting the new Shogun.
Yamao will help and turn Momo, from a coward, inexperiencdd Shogun he is now, into a stronger and more dependable one in EoS.

 

[Akai2]

I was always on the "no one will join" bandwagon. But another major plus for Yamato this week. After the last few chapters + the anime episode with Ace, I'm starting to change my mind

Momo was willing to repeat Oden’s “surrender to prevent casualties” mistake. Luffy’s here to literally and figuratively “open” Wano. To put an end to boomer Oden worship. It’s great Yamato didn’t default back to “This is what Oden did”. She scolded Momo similar to how Ace scolded her. Her character arc is heading in the right direction.

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And even if she never joins, she's definitely Strawhat worthy like Vivi.

 

[Topi Jerami]

I was always on the "no one will join" bandwagon. But another major plus for Yamato this week.

Usual double standard from OPlers.

"Carrot is now together with Nekomamushi and Wanda"
OPlers: That means Carrot will go back with the minks and eating grass!!

"Yamao is now babysitting Momo"
OPlers: Another plus for Yamao joining!!1! 🤪🤪

 

[SeaTonnes]

Waribou >>>>>>>>>>>> mid candidates

 

[Akai2]

Usual double standard from OPlers.

"Carrot is now together with Nekomamushi and Wanda"
OPlers: That means Carrot will go back with the minks and eating grass!!

"Yamao is now babysitting Momo"
OPlers: Another plus for Yamao joining!!1! 🤪🤪

I think this is the first time I've had the honor of being called an "OPler" by the GOAT himself

But for the record, I never said anything about Carrot lol

 

[Outlaw]

I think this is the first time I've had the honor of being called an "OPler" by the GOAT himself

But for the record, I never said anything about Carrot lol

@Topi Jerami is dumb as hell

 

[Topi Jerami]

I think this is the first time I've had the honor of being called an "OPler" by the GOAT himself

But for the record, I never said anything about Carrot lol

Yeah I am referring to @Ravagerblade , @Jew D. Boy , @Outlaw and the other lowest common denominators here.

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@Topi Jerami is dumb as hell

You are the one dumb as shit with your double standard.
Still give it to you though, at least you are not as dumb as Yamao yet.

 

[Akai2]

Guys chill with the insults

 

[CarrotForNakama]

We all know what she wants truly want and it's to go to sea with luffy(chapter 1016) but u think it's mean something else

What Yamato truly wants is freedom, going out to sea is just a way to have this. It can be done in different ways. Freedom is more about choices than everything.

To save his country n open it up that where he leaVe it to kinemon and loyal samurai and his son to do so not Yamato

And that exactly what yamato's purpose could be after the war

So Momo who wants to be Shogun will leave, while Yamato who wants to leave will be Shogun. That there surprise effect by Oda, next level

It's just one of the possibility. None can be ereased. It's called an hypothesis for a reason

Imagine the people of Wano finally happy to be freed from Kaido's and Orochi's rule then Momo, who they waited decades to be shogun, says he wants to leave and become a pirate.

... to be a better shogun.. so I don't see how this would be a deal breaker

Fixed your typo. You’re welcome ;)

You don't want to start this

And the guy providing these kind of takes claims himself to be this superior "analyst".

This is not a "claim" this is a simple "hypothesis".. no wonder you guy have problem understanding the story.. you don't understand the difference between an affirmation and a supposition.

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The "Drums of Liberation" is a very interesting phrase. It's probably a reference to the book "Sacred Drums of Liberation" which is about African groups and diaspora using culture as a resistance force against slavery and colonialism, which is fitting for Wano. Most of the cultural aspects are focused on music and dance. I bring this up only because I previously mentioned that in the initial sketch for the crew, Oda included the word "bolero" which is also a dance. I took this to mean that the last member will be related to dancing in some way, which Yamato fits given her connections to the goddess Ame-no-Uzume who was famous for her dance. The goddess is even credited for creating taiko (Japanese drums) performances with her dance. Now we have Oda referencing a book all about how dance and music have been used to fight for one's freedom. This just seems to be further evidence that Yamato is a microcosm of the ties Oda has been deliberately creating between the dawn/sun, freedom/joy/partying, and that she's joining the crew.

This is an actual good point. Closer to an hypothesis than a theory tho

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Now I will say the same thing I said to my Carrot fellow Carrot fan's

Remember, Carrot doesn't need much in wano. The only thing we need is for her to have a purpose and a reason to sneak again on the Sunny and to follow Luffy. Look's like witnessing the arrival of Joy boy could be decisive

What really needs Carrot is just to make the link between what Pedro told her about the importance of Luffy and what Luffy can actually do. Nothing more is necessary to spark her light


Of course it would be nice to see her have a moment, but it's not about that for her. Her moment will surely come later.


If Joy Boy arrives.. and you see Carrot having a flashback of those precise panels:

IT'S OVER

 

[jordin]

... to be a better shogun.. so I don't see how this would be a deal breaker

Oden: *leaves Wano when he was the rightful heir to the throne
"This was Oden's biggest mistake. Yamato should stay so she doesn't repeat it. Protecting Wano > Following Dream"

Momo: *leaves Wano when he's the rightful heir to the throne
"He's only following his dream to become shogun."

 

[CarrotForNakama]

Oden: *leaves Wano when he was the rightful heir to the throne
"This was Oden's biggest mistake. Yamato should stay so she doesn't repeat it. Protecting Wano > Following Dream"

Momo: *leaves Wano when he's the rightful heir to the throne
"He's only following his dream to become shogun."

I understand what you mean, but you need to understand why it was a big mistake for Oden at the time. Oden was the only one who could raelly protect the country against a major threat. Therefore leaving the country was "selfish".

Momo is not trained, has every fears and don't know if he can be a good shogun. So, seeking the sea to conquer his fears and find out why the country should be open... while letting Yamato.. the one with the bigger strenght behind, is not the worst choice there is.

It's actually the wise choice.

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IT'S OVER

And by "it's over". I mean that the 99% of probability of Carrot joining, will be transformed into a 100%

 

[SeaTonnes]

I understand what you mean, but you need to understand why it was a big mistake for Oden at the time. Oden was the only one who could raelly protect the country against a major threat. Therefore leaving the country was "selfish".

Momo is not trained, has every fears and don't know if he can be a good shogun. So, seeking the sea to conquer his fears and find out why the country should be open... while letting Yamato.. the one with the bigger strenght behind, is not the worst choice there is.

It's actually the wise choice.

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And by "it's over". I mean that the 99% of probability of Carrot joining, will be transformed into a 100%

Caribou >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Midrot

 

[JoSeungHun7335]

People seriously think that Wano’s residence will let the daughter of the oppressor for 20 years to be the shogun, while the supposedly next shogun himself leaves the sea, again?

It’s like saying that Wano’s residence will think: “ah, our next shogun is the daughter of our oppressor for 20 years. She’s strong, she can protect us and won’t betray us because she thinks she’s Oden.”

That’s a seriously dumbfuck mindset. Dumbfuck is too generous actually. Like Wano’s residence don’t have any PTSD. Someone who suggests that really has no knowledge about politics at all, not even having any brain; not even human

Not to mention that, has Wano had a shogun who’s biologically female to begin with?

 

[CarrotForNakama]

People seriously think that Wano’s residence will let the daughter of the oppressor for 20 years to be the shogun, while the supposedly next shogun himself leaves the sea, again?

One of the BIGGEST message of One Piece is that a son should not be held responsible for sin of his father. And why is it such a huge message ? Because it's the core emotionnal weight behind the death of a character Yamato knew quite well: ACE

Wano is a country supposed to be a representation of Japan, in it's worst but also at it's best. Therefore, making the inhabitants of Wano reject Yamato because she is Kaido's daughter, would go against everything Oda created in the story.

Momo might not ask Yamato to replace him for a while at the helm of the country. But trust me that if he does. The country will accept her.

 

[Blizz532]

And by "it's over". I mean that the 99% of probability of Carrot joining, will be transformed into a 100%

1 panel of her running 99% confirms that she will be a strawhat

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The "Drums of Liberation" is a very interesting phrase. It's probably a reference to the book "Sacred Drums of Liberation" which is about African groups and diaspora using culture as a resistance force against slavery and colonialism, which is fitting for Wano. Most of the cultural aspects are focused on music and dance. I bring this up only because I previously mentioned that in the initial sketch for the crew, Oda included the word "bolero" which is also a dance. I took this to mean that the last member will be related to dancing in some way, which Yamato fits given her connections to the goddess Ame-no-Uzume who was famous for her dance. The goddess is even credited for creating taiko (Japanese drums) performances with her dance. Now we have Oda referencing a book all about how dance and music have been used to fight for one's freedom. This just seems to be further evidence that Yamato is a microcosm of the ties Oda has been deliberately creating between the dawn/sun, freedom/joy/partying, and that she's joining the crew.

I like this...

 

[Go D. Trussop]

Lmao Why do guys still bother to put so much passion and effort into your comments and replies? It seems like such a huge waste of time.

I feel like everything that’s needed to be said has already been said and now we’re just going in circles.

What should be clear to everyone is that nobody’s gonna convince anybody of anything on here no matter how many times you counter argue or ”own” the other side.

At this point, it’s far more productive to just wait for the Wano arc to end and see what happens. And guys, don’t take this shit so seriously. It’s just a children’s comic book at the end of the day.

 

[Staticshadic]

Lmao Why do guys still bother to put so much passion and effort into your comments and replies? It seems like such a huge waste of time.

I feel like everything that’s needed to be said has already been said and now we’re just going in circles.

What should be clear to everyone is that nobody’s gonna convince anybody of anything on here no matter how many times you counter argue or ”own” the other side.

At this point, it’s far more productive to just wait for the Wano arc to end and see what happens. And guys, don’t take this shit so seriously. It’s just a children’s comic book at the end of the day.

I hate admit but

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[Blizz532]

One of the BIGGEST message of One Piece is that a son should not be held responsible for sin of his father. And why is it such a huge message ? Because it's the core emotionnal weight behind the death of a character Yamato knew quite well: ACE

Wano is a country supposed to be a representation of Japan, in it's worst but also at it's best. Therefore, making the inhabitants of Wano reject Yamato because she is Kaido's daughter, would go against everything Oda created in the story.

Momo might not ask Yamato to replace him for a while at the helm of the country. But trust me that if he does. The country will accept her.

And now you think Momo will join the crew. There is like 0.000000001% chance of that happening and Momo still has a better chance of joining than Larrot. Momo would never, as far as his developed now, ask somebody else to take responsibility for his words that he declared throughout Wano that would restrict another person's dreams and freedom.

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Lmao Why do guys still bother to put so much passion and effort into your comments and replies? It seems like such a huge waste of time.

I feel like everything that’s needed to be said has already been said and now we’re just going in circles.

What should be clear to everyone is that nobody’s gonna convince anybody of anything on here no matter how many times you counter argue or ”own” the other side.

At this point, it’s far more productive to just wait for the Wano arc to end and see what happens. And guys, don’t take this shit so seriously. It’s just a children’s comic book at the end of the day.

Nah sometimes it's fun but other times like the past few weeks on this thread where I've been inactive it was a toxic shithole.

 

[Fuckthis3]

Lmao Why do guys still bother to put so much passion and effort into your comments and replies? It seems like such a huge waste of time.

I feel like everything that’s needed to be said has already been said and now we’re just going in circles.

What should be clear to everyone is that nobody’s gonna convince anybody of anything on here no matter how many times you counter argue or ”own” the other side.

At this point, it’s far more productive to just wait for the Wano arc to end and see what happens. And guys, don’t take this shit so seriously. It’s just a children’s comic book at the end of the day.

Don't be saying this like you wasn't goin back and fourth too lol but agree they won't listen tho