General & Others Oda’s Editor needs to tell Oda how bad his fight choreography is

#13
Imagine thinking fame = skill. Next thing you're gonna tell me is that the quality of music is measured by the number of clicks.
Any best selling creative is talented in what they create and sell, whether or not you personally respect their product. Or else you would do it and have millions of dollars yourself instead of sitting here and talking about it for hours of your life every week.
 
#15
Any best selling creative is talented in what they create and sell, whether or not you personally respect their product. Or else you would do it and have millions of dollars yourself instead of sitting here and talking about it for hours of your life every week.
Typical Oda bootlicker, can’t even criticize Oda when it’s clear his fight choreography needs improvement lol
 
#17
Typical Oda bootlicker, can’t even criticize Oda when it’s clear his fight choreography needs improvement lol
Look at the success of his mentor Toriyama or the success of peers like Togashi and tell me how the art needs work.

Art has technical and subjective aspects. The things you don't like make neither of them bad, at the very least not with an isolated example. Zoro vs King looks nothing like this fight, for example, and many other fights have many other unique angles and layouts.
 
#19
Because sales are indicative of popularity, not quality. McDonald's makes far more profit than the average 5 star restaurant, in no way does that prove that McDonald's products are superior to that of a 5 star restaurant.
There is a vast difference between those because price and nutritional value are objective measures. One Piece doesn't cost less, demand less work effort to create, or have different "ingredients" so that comparison doesn't fit.

One Piece is art. You can love Beethoven and hate Prince or vice versa, but that in no way would imply a value difference between them, they're both highly valued within their realms and successful in general.
 
#20
There is a vast difference between those because price and nutritional value are objective measures. One Piece doesn't cost less or have different "ingredients" so that comparison doesn't fit.
There are objective measures in story telling. Consistency of plot, character consistency, quality of character development, lore consistency, quality of world building, quality of fight choreography etc. etc.

Sales success is because of popularity. A popular but objectively bad product will make more money than an unpopular but objectively good product.
One Piece is art. You can love Beethoven and hate Prince or vice versa, but that in no way would imply a value difference between them, they're both highly valued within their realms and successful in general.
People can love an objectively poorly written story or hate an objectively well written one. Their love or hate of it is irrelevant in regards to the quality of the product though.

Besides, if there is no objective metric to story telling then there are no good story tellers, only successful ones.

Is that what you are arguing?
 
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