Character Discussion Oda had to exclude Zoro from WCI because he was too strong

#51
mogura that couldnt land on base luffy aint doing shit
Zoro who can't even avoid attacks from Killer because of Gyukimaru is somehow going to manage to avoid Katakuri....

Meanwhile you got someone like Rayleigh who implies that in his prime he would have been able to fight off an Admiral and save the Straw Hats at the same time. :kawak:
 

Finalbeta

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#52
No Enma to carry him ? Yall sure ?

This meme has turned boring:

Zoro whilst attempting to tame Enma said: "Give it back to me" obviously referring to his general energy and also haki after his arm had shrunk in size. However I believe it's extensively unlikely that Enma is capable to permanently store these even if the user wished to, and eventually the energy would be converted to another form, and regardless Oden's arms were normal before he died. Kaido talks about presence, not even haki, and swords are living objects canonically, eventually Enma simply stored his memories, but that has to be proven later on.

Also I believe that the black blade is decidedly not about storing haki in the sword, but eventually render it particularly hard without storing it, since Zoro failed to cut up Monet.
 
#53
Title. He was simply too strong to be in the arc the only one on the enemy side who would‘ve been able to stop him is big mom herself. Could you imagine in a Sanji centric arc, zoro bodying opponents stronger then luffy at the time. crazy to look back at it all in hind-sight.
I think this is pretty much factual now. :cheers:

Nami saying they would have brought Zoro along if they were to fight to begin with makes a lot more sense. Pretty sure that was Oda's way of subtly hinting at your point. If Zoro were brought along to WCI, the only viable threats to the alliance would be Big Mom and Katakuri. The likes of Smoothie, Cracker, Snack, Peros, the enraged army, Daifuku, Oven, and other 'monsters' would have been a non-factor. Tatsumaki alone would have one-shot likely anyone but Smoothie from that group. And Smoothie the Forgotten becomes Smoothie the Deceased when she hulks out and is hit by Daisen Sekai. At least, back in Dressrosa, Fujitora was around to balance things out. No one of that caliber was present in WCI, sadly.



P. S. I still think separating the SHs is still a mistake by Oda, though.
 
#54
Zoro who can't even avoid attacks from Killer because of Gyukimaru is somehow going to manage to avoid Katakuri....

Meanwhile you got someone like Rayleigh who implies that in his prime he would have been able to fight off an Admiral and save the Straw Hats at the same time. :kawak:
Giving a zoro an out while trying to debate against him isn’t helping you. Like you said gyukimaru distracted him points on trying to randomly bring up Rayleigh though
 
#55
Zoro who can't even avoid attacks from Killer because of Gyukimaru is somehow going to manage to avoid Katakuri....

Meanwhile you got someone like Rayleigh who implies that in his prime he would have been able to fight off an Admiral and save the Straw Hats at the same time. :kawak:
More disingenuous behaviour from you.

Once killer got there zoro stopped treating gyuki as a proper enemy and constantly chided him for sneak attacks instead of attacking him back.

Base luffy dodged it for fun
INJURED BASE luffy dodged it for fun


Mogura isn't doing shit.
 
#58
Giving a zoro an out while trying to debate against him isn’t helping you. Like you said gyukimaru distracted him points on trying to randomly bring up Rayleigh though
To which by Zoro's own admission he got tagged because of his own lack of skill. If that's as far as his skill took him at that point, he's does nothing against Katakuri, who would have no diffed Killer and Gyukimaru at the same time.
 
#59
Zoro pushed it back to buy luffy time to beat doffy cause he believed in luffy.

Now do you have a panel where he failed to cut it or not.
If Zoro could cut it he would have done it instead of pushing it back helplessly like a retard. Luffy would have fought Doffy anyway with birdcage or without
 
#60
To which by Zoro's own admission he got tagged because of his own lack of skill. If that's as far as his skill took him at that point, he's does nothing against Katakuri, who would have no diffed Killer and Gyukimaru at the same time.
Kata no diff killer? Headcanon
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If Zoro could cut it he would have done it instead of pushing it back helplessly like a retard. Luffy would have fought Doffy anyway with birdcage or without
Fuji couldn’t cut it either ? Or kinemon that could cut kaido either huh?
 
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