Current Events Oda likes hyping up people before beating the crap out of them. Green bull is going to get it.

#21
So here are the 4 reasons Ryokugyu will not be defeated , even if he fights the Alliance :​



The Alliance don't know his powers as well , other than dangerous Nutrients-Absorbing attack , he could have :

1. Poisonous Mushrooms

2. Mind-Controlling Fungus

3. Flowers that can make opponents unsconcious

All these will be dangerous attacks that can catch people off-guard & take them down instantly .
Some other possibilities for Ryokugyu's powers :​

4. Awakening
The thing which Oda maybe has skipped with Kaido & BM , but i don't think he's doing this to the Admirals , Punk Hazard is of course the strongest proof they have it , but Akainu causing post-MF BBP to run away is a proof as well imo .​

5. Full-Zoan form being his strongest form
Since Admirals are really dependent on their DFs , yes i think we can expect his Full-Zoan form to be his strongest form , just like Sengoku . And yes i think he is a Mythical Zoan .​

The exact opposite to Kaido whose Full-Zoan form , GB will be stronger than the Azure Dragon in his Full-Zoan form and his huge size may help him to better deal with a lot of people at the same time , like for example he can create bigger & therefore more dangerous Nutrients-Absorbing attack .​

6. It's very possible Ryokugyu can be stronger than normal with excessive Light or Water
Which 7 members of the Alliance posses - Franky has Light , Raizo Jinbe Nami Usopp have Water , Yamato Brook have Frozen Water .

Especially Raizo + Jinbe who have already demonstrated to generate & control this much Water with "Water of Zou" :
https://mangasee123.com/read-online/One-Piece-chapter-1049-page-8.html

Aramaki may also be able to pull-out plants that shoot-out water himself , like Usopp's Green Star Sprinkler : https://mangasee123.com/read-online/One-Piece-chapter-1046-page-9.html

And then Aramaki absorbs the Water and make himself bigger/stronger than he already is .​

7. Quick-Regeneration like Marco
We know in real-life plants can re-generate/re-grow if you chop off their stems .​
His fruit could be absurdly broken depending on what Oda does.
 
#22
You are crazy if you think that Green Bull represents a threat to Luffy at this point of the story
Green Bull will capture the members of the Beast Pirates and advance the plot somehow, depending on what Oda has planned for him.
In my opinion, Luffy will become aware of the threat of Marine/WG interference and claim Wano as his territory.
It would be cool if his Fleet shows up and sets home in Wano.
 
#24
You got meat for Doffy>King, but nope, you had to stick your claws at the Admirals, huh?
Your logic regarding the jobbing out could very easily apply to Luffy himself, as Oda did everything in his power to have the SHs easily trample over Kaidou.
 
#25
You’re acting like Luffy will never struggle again in the story and just wash anyone who isn’t Blackbeard.

Newsflash. Luffy is probably going to take L’s to some fodder giants in Elbaf, let alone Ryokugyu.
Luffy doesn't have many opponents left in the first place, since the Manga is close to ending.

Luffy's power-ups got very ridiculous. Future Sight, Ryou, Advanced CoC, Awakened legendary fruit. After beating the strongest creature he will not be struggling vs an admiral, in my opinion.
 
#26
There is no Hype really, it's just how Oda introduces the Admirals, but people overreacted too much cuz they were desperate to finally see an Admiral for so long

All Admirals are teased in a Unique Way (Akainu is the exception, at least to some extent, but he still share a lot of similarities)

Aokiji was Teased travelling the seas with a bicycle
Kizaru arrived on top of a Canonball
Fujitora was gambling even though he was blind
Ryokugyu flying using a Flower

After that, Oda shows a Scene where Admirals demonstrate their DF Powers against Fodders & large environment

Aokiji in an instant froze a Sea King & the Sea
Kizaru demonstrated his Destructive Power in front of Fodders by shooting a Huge Tree from Sabaody
Fujitora crushed some Casino Fodders, sending them underground & creating massive hole
Ryokugyu used his DF Powers on Beasts Pirates Prisoners & turned entire Udon Area into a Forest

Then comes the Admiral overpowering his Target(s)

Aokiji overwhelmed Monster Trio
Kizaru overwhelmed Supernova Captains
Fujitora overwhelmed Law
Ryokugyu gonna overwhelm someone from Alliance or multiple fighters

During this Fight, the Admiral seems to have succeeded in his Objective for a time

Aokiji froze & captured Robin
Kizaru caught Zoro & going to kill him (Another Supernova)
Fujitora caught Law with Doffy's Help & they took him to the Castle
So expect to see Ryokugyu succeed in capturing Luffy (Imo he will be taken to Mary Geoise)

But the Admiral's Success doesn't last for long, as someone saves the Captured MC

Usopp saves Robin
Rayleigh saves Zoro
Luffy rescues Law
So someone will save Luffy after he gets captured (There are so many candidates for this)

However after the entire Admiral Introduction, their warning comes to be true in one way or another

Aokiji warned SHs about Robin & it came to be true in form of CP-9 & Lucci
Kizaru came to capture SHs/Supernova, he didn't succeed but Kuma did gave them a humiliating defeat
Fujitora warned both Law & Doflamingo about their Titles & Shichibukai System was indeed removed not long after
So expect Ryokugyu's Warning to Alliance to be related to the introduction of Next Villain or Next Major Event
 
#27
I disagree strongly. I believe that Oda introducing Green Bull the way that he did was a way of telling the reader that, despite who Luffy has just defeated, One Piece still has stakes. I am not saying that Luffy will lose… I have no idea what is going to happen. But a lot of people are underestimating Green Bull and the Admirals.
 
#28
I disagree strongly. I believe that Oda introducing Green Bull the way that he did was a way of telling the reader that, despite who Luffy has just defeated, One Piece still has stakes. I am not saying that Luffy will lose… I have no idea what is going to happen. But a lot of people are underestimating Green Bull and the Admirals.
Even if we are to believe Green Bull is a threat to Luffy, Green Bull is just one guy... Luffy has his entire crew with him, the Samurai, the other Supernova...

Green Bull is asking to be captured and used as a hostage.
 

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#29
There‘s no way he gets defeated here lol. GB‘s job is to heal and clean up Wano. I can see Luffy surrendering to him to ensure Wano‘s safety, though.
 
#30
Luffy doesn't have many opponents left in the first place, since the Manga is close to ending.

Luffy's power-ups got very ridiculous. Future Sight, Ryou, Advanced CoC, Awakened legendary fruit. After beating the strongest creature he will not be struggling vs an admiral, in my opinion.
I agree but there will have to be some struggle with Luffy vs. an Admiral for story-sake. Im and BB are the ones that Luffy needs to be worried about.
 
#31
I've talked about this concept before, of the "respectful loser". Oda likes to give people good feats before beating the crap out of them.



Examples:

- Marco/Jozu blocking Kizaru/Mihawk. Then Marco gets taken out by a pair of handcuffs, and Jozu gets one shot/amputated.

- Zoro blocks Hakai and uses Ashura, before he gets sent downstairs to deal with Commanders, cause his playtime with Yonkos was done.

- With King/Queen he treated them like crap, then right before their defeat he hyped them up, and after treats them like shit once more.

In fact an opponent's hype is highest right before their defeat. This is in some ways to hype up the character defeating them too.

When you look at Greenbull's dialogue "Someone of my rank won't be done in by underlings", Oda is going out of his way to protect the relevancy of the Admirals. We've seen them fight Commanders before, but it has never been outright stated that Admiral > Commander until now.

But we can also see that Greenbull is being arrogant af. Luffy has just defeated the World's Strongest Man, and been declared a Yonko. We know what happens when people underestimate Luffy



Back then the Supernovas were still rough around the edges. But this is THEIR TIME. This is the moment the Supernovas didn't just take out "Mere Warlords" but Yonko.



We're in the midst of Supernova wank, and Greenbull is being all arrogant and underestimating Luffy. We know that's a recipe for disaster. Now more than ever.

Luffy never finished his bout with Fujitora in Dressrosa, but he will do certainly do it here if given the chance.



There ain't no running this time.
greenbull just got introduced lmao. Yes of course greenbull will eventually be beaten like everyone else, but the "hype" part of it is just starting. Greenbull vs the alliance will still be about hyping greenbull, he will be defeated in final war
 
#35
Oda always pulls the Hype Hype no Mi in terms of introduction.

People hyping Greenbull in an extraordinary level is ridiculous. He's strong he's an Admiral, but people have to realise that he never ever would beat alle the people gathered there.

Law, Kid, Luffy, Zoro is more than enough
 
#39
Even if we are to believe Green Bull is a threat to Luffy, Green Bull is just one guy... Luffy has his entire crew with him, the Samurai, the other Supernova...

Green Bull is asking to be captured and used as a hostage.
Lol I cannot see an admiral letting himself be taken as a hostage. Again, I have no idea what will happen, but I seriously doubt that Oda introduced him just to be a punching bag for the crew. If anything, Green Bull might be the one to take a hostage.
 
#40
I gave Fujitora an "A", King a "B", and Queen a "B-". Unlike some here, I never considered the Commanders anywhere near Admirals.



And this was still pre-awakened Supernovas^. That's how far back I wrote this. Obviously Luffy/Law/Kid got stronger than that.

So no I never underestimated the Admirals, but Greenbull is walking into a fucking slaughterhouse here.



And wtf would the point of that be? Circlejerking? Have you ever written even a short story mate? Do you know how narrative works?
Didn't you say Goofy was going to finish Kaido in G4? You also was Coping with every new PU Goofy got in Wano because it majes Doffy irrelevant
 
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