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I remember saying Kaido> Oden
Kaido would have won even back then
Oden used named moves, haki ...
Kaido didn't use, not even hybrid or base until he got fatally wounded
"Hybrid dont matter, kaido is weak"

Same thing here...
King will beat Marco 1v1
Evrn Queen won't lose to Marco
 
Counter-example
Queen fought Big Mom in beast form
Jack fought the sulong dukes in beast form
Ulti switched from hybrid to beast against Luffy
luffy didn't start fighting kaido using g4, zoro didn't use asura yet. Characters usually start fighting in their weaker forms.
 
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Yes, YC3 Cracker manhandled base Luffy with only one biscuit soldier.



Yes, Feel free to prove BM did more damage.



No, They'd destroy him in five minutes.



Marco molests Katakuri. I am not even joking like I usually do on Katakuri topics. MF war lasted 3 hours. Marco was fighting top tiers and yet he didn't come close to getting exhausted. Lesser characters like Ace or Jack can continue to fight for days. Time isn't a factor here. It's the rate at which Marco needed to use regeneration. He's constantly being hit by King, Queen, and Kings flying squad with attacks from King being likely comprised of a high-level COA.

Marco is faster than Katakuri. Kuri can't even tag a heavily injured base Luffy with Mogura, He must have the luck of a devil to be able to tag Marco lmao. Katakuri can't put Luffy down with ten hours' worth of free hits. He will never be able to inflict the same amount of damage as two Zoans worth more than him with his shit-tier attacks. You must be joking when you said Karakuri is more relevant than Marco. Have you seen anyone outside BM pirates even mention Katakuri's name after WCI? lmao
Marco faster than Katakuri
:milaugh: yeah
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Where did King use High level of CoA?
Mameless attacks, bullets
Gifters didnt attack Marco! Only King did the most and Queen attacks didnt even land or hurt Marco only King's

Haha... mogura is the slowest attack from Katakuri yet still faster than Marco attack speed.
 
The thing about full Zoan and Hybrid being radically different in powerlevels is mostly headcanon, the truth is closer to hybrid being favored since people are more comfortable in human forms, Lucci didn't train leopard martial arts for instance.
 
Page One is higher than Ulti (you can see from shoulders) same way Drake is higher than Sasaki
and both Drake and Page1 facing side ways.

Sasaki being cocky?
Sasaki also thinks he's above calamaities like King
Sasaki said both Page one and Drake can't be calamities. Not just P1.

Okay? and?
That's her personality. She doesn't even care when she talks to Kaido.

From what?
Nami handling her with ease?
Page One's hybrid unnamed+hakiless attack vs Sanji > Ulti's hybrid haki+named attack vs Usopp
This is ridiculous they call him pay-pay. Ulti confronted Sasaki about bullying pageone and then she rode
him down the stairs like a sled. When up against Luffy he was wrecked while Ulti
forced him to go G4. After getting taken out by a bagua she fought with Yamato equally in the plaza.
She also defeated both Usopp and Nami easily.
 
I mean sure but from all the clues we are getting
-he's getting tired from fighting K and Q
-Perospero noticed he's weakened
-he never used "true hybrid" in marineford
yet somehow he will pull out his "true hybrid" later?
Sure, but Marco can recover fast too. Jack got trashed by the Dukes and now he is chasing the Scabbards. And Marco doesn't look half as bad + has the best recovery. He is one of the most valuable players in the alliance, fighting off even Big Mom. So I assume there is more to come, with K+Q being just side fights he might even leave alone, since I assume Sanji should fight a calamity. And going by the theme, it should rather be Queen than Jack. Hybrid is a form Marco would use in his main fight, if there is any. Hence I would wait till the end of the arc. The arc will probably be over this year, since Oda implied Shanks will start his move 2021 too.
 
King and Queen drop their guard way too easily, especially King.
This is like East Blue Zoro thinking the fight is over against Buggy because he was split.
King drops his guard just because he cut Marco's wing, then gets smacked twice.

Substitute Marco for any top tiers and the consequences for dropping their guards mid-fight the way they did would be immense, most likely fight-ending.
 
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Why does King keep going back and forth between his full zoan form and human form?

One minute he's in his full zoan form and the next he's back to his human form, then he goes to his full zoan form again and then he goes back to his human form again lol.
Stalling and outplaying Marco

If King was serious, he'd be using powerful attacks ,koka...
 
King and Queen drop their guard way too easily, especially King.
This is like East Blue Zoro thinking the fight is over against Buggy because he was split.
King drops his guard just because he cut Marco's wing, then gets smacked twice.

Substitute Marco for any top tiers and the consequences for dropping their guards mid-fight the way they did would be immense, most likely fight-ending.
They probably feel too much in control since it's a 2 vs 1 and both of them don't consider themselves inferior to Marco.

That's why Queen for example feels like he can take his eyes off Marco to try to snipe other targets with the lasers :milaugh:
 
tell that to lucci and kaku

not to worry, kaido's hybrid will demolish this idea that zoan form is almost equal to hybrid form
Kaido isnt ancient zoan
Funny you mention Lucci and Kaku, because unlike some characters in the current arc, they never bothered with their beast form. Proof that ancient zoan are different.
 
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