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With Yamato likely joining too, I'm truly starting to fall back into the Zodiac Admiral theory.
I'm still not exactly where where she falls relative to Jinbe (I assume stronger), but I think it would be really interesting if Oda goes there.

Basically we know 7 of 12 "Zodiac" names used by Admirals and those who failed to become admirals during the world conscription:

Admirals (past and present)
- Akainu (Red Dog)
- Aokiji (Blue Pheasant)
- Kizaru (Yellow Monkey)
- Fujitora (Purple Tiger)
- Ryokugyuu (Green Bull)

Vice Admirals

- Chaton (Brown Pig)
- Momousagi (Pink Rabbit)

Which leads me to believe there are 5 additional ice Admirals with Admiral codenames. While I don't expect the matchups to be "perfect", I can very much see a Strawhat crew of 11 or 12 taking these people on during the beginnings of the final war.

Either Yamato or Jinbe fight Kizaru (Kizaru IS indirectly responsible for Arlong being in East Blue, but Yamato seems stronger) and the other fights a VA, or someone soon actually takes over Kuzan's old codename (Aokiji) and becomes a 4th Admiral under Akainu.


Kind of excited to see where that goes
The Goat on the Zodiac probably refers to Sengoku.
 
She already get portrayal higher. The Scabbards as whole troup get low diffed by BASE Kaido. She now facing Hybird Kaido, also Oden was portrayal beyond the Scabbard lvl, she replace Oden(ofc weaker but still).

In the moment when she can fight hybrid Kaido and push him mid diff, she became clearly above all scabbards.
Mate what the fuck are you talking about? Sulong Dukes insta-owned Jack. Yamato was struggling with Ulti.

People using forms is not an indication of anything. Oda will hold off on reveals early on, and use it like water later.
 
Mate what the fuck are you talking about? Sulong Dukes insta-owned Jack. Yamato was struggling with Ulti.
A injuried Jack, also Yamato toy with Ulti, never really care about.
Or do you wanna say me Ulti would do the same as what Yama did against LuffyG2/G3?
Yama let Luffy G2/G3 be looking useless. You underestimate Yama to much, she going to have at least one adv haki form.
 
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They are not the same levels and have never been portrayed to be the same. Queen freaks out over his encounters with Big Mom while King doesn't.
Queen's physical strength and durability >>> King's, literally the only thing putting King above Queen rn is his title and speed. Show me King K.O'ing a Yonko before putting him on another tier
 
A injuried Jack, also Yamato toy with Ulti, never really care about.
Or do you wanna say me Ulti would do the same as what Yama did against LuffyG2/G3?
Yama let Luffy G2/G3 be looking useless. You underestimate Yama to much, she going to have at least one adv haki form.
Injured Jack told the Tobi Roppo to fuck off because they can’t handle scabbards. Stop it with this nonsense. Yamato has good physical strength but so do all Zooans.
 
Injured Jack told the Tobi Roppo to fuck off because they can’t handle scabbards. Stop it with this nonsense. Yamato has good physical strength but so do all Zooans.
She is also fast, physical power is good and she seems having a insane haki,perhaps even adv haki.
If she can match hybrid Kaido now, I doubt any flyer or calamity(barely King) could do the same.
Law was destroyed in seconds and couldn´t handle on his own Hybrid Kaido, I doubt Law is weaker then the flyers. As I said you underestimate Yamato to much.

Base Yama is easily over G2/G3 pre Adv CoC Luffy. With Zoan probably even far higher.
 
She is also fast, physical power is good and she seems having a insane haki,perhaps even adv haki.
If she can match hybrid Kaido now, I doubt any flyer or calamity(barely King) could do the same.
Law was destroyed in seconds and couldn´t handle on his own Hybrid Kaido, I doubt Law is weaker then the flyers. As I said you underestimate Yamato to much.

Base Yama is easily over G2/G3 pre Adv CoC Luffy. With Zoan probably even far higher.
Dude you’re just throwing out random forms and names. Ulti held back Yamato, who wanted to save Momo. That was a prolonged clash.

I guarantee you Ulti can’t hold back all the Scabbards with Sulong Dukes. Stop it with this garbage.
 
1- Zoro fought ans halted 2 combined power from 2 yonko
2- he scarred Kaido for life
3- Zoro is a conqueror
4- He is a leader of the new generation

Vs
Sanji who baked a cake lmao
Sanji is more clever , better strategist , better cooker , better crew mate , better good person.
Zoro sleep training sleep training.

Even though sanji don't make any training any time, he always is good fighter.

Zoro have more durability than Sanji . That is why sanji get CoO. But as a damage , no difference so much.

Think if sanji make training........
 
Dude you’re just throwing out random forms and names. Ulti held back Yamato, who wanted to save Momo. That was a prolonged clash.

I guarantee you Ulti can’t hold back all the Scabbards with Sulong Dukes. Stop it with this garbage.
It was just a small clash with Yamato even looking away.
Yamato legit block easily G2/G3 Luffy, she fighting soon hybrid Kaido, isn´t that enough to tell about her powerlvl?
Why you can´t wait for the battle until you judge her powerlvl?
 
Dude you’re just throwing out random forms and names. Ulti held back Yamato, who wanted to save Momo. That was a prolonged clash.

I guarantee you Ulti can’t hold back all the Scabbards with Sulong Dukes. Stop it with this garbage.
You might need to re read Onigashima, Yamato was casually talking with others while Ulti attacked and after Luffy said to protect Momo Yamato left Ulti.
 
I would assume the rat would be Grey Rat as grey is usually associated with mice/rats
Possibly.

Also just to add, I do think Yamato is last and Aokiji will always be taken by Kuzan. "11" crew members matches Blackbeard and his 10 captains. It could also match Shanks, Mihawk (if they ally) and the current 9 existing subordinates he has (including Rockstar). It could be the 11 of 12 Zodiac admirals without Aokiji). Finally, if Im and the Gorosei play a role, it's possible Im, Gorosei, Kong and 5 unknown world government operatives (not CP-0, but potentially people who work under Kong and Control the 4 blues plus Grandline).

I do personally think these Marine and WG factions exist (5 unknown characters each). Plus it does not include CP-0 or the SSG, but I think the former is reserved for the Revolutionaries while the latter are possible arc villains coming up.
 
Sanji is more clever , better strategist , better cooker , better crew mate , better good person.
Zoro sleep training sleep training.
1- Clever
That's why he thought that big mom would respect him and not kill his family / his crew if he married her daughter .

2- strategist

Sanji : i will protect my captain and talks about plans around

Sanji : we screwed up

3- Better crew mate

Jinbei joined and didn't do anything to him and Sanji started picking on him or when Jinbei apologized to Nami about somethings he didn't even do sanji said kill urself jumping like clown despite that Jinbei was a main factor of Luffy being alive also saving him from his break down after ace died

4- better cooker
Good for him

5- better good person
sanji said kill urself jumping like clown despite that Jinbei was a main factor of Luffy being alive also saving him from his break down after ace died
Even though sanji don't make any training any time, he always is good fighter.
1- He got his leg cracked against troll vergo
2- he got low diffed by doffy
3- he couldn't beat page one the weakest tobi roppo .



Zoro have more durability than Sanji . That is why sanji get CoO. But as a damage , no difference so much
• Sanji's CoO feat :
Drake tailed him


Think if sanji make training....
That's why RS is there to save his ass using durability / invisiblity / booster for speed / fly / defence using the cape / AP from the speed boost .

Overall boost for his stats
 
Possibly.

Also just to add, I do think Yamato is last and Aokiji will always be taken by Kuzan. "11" crew members matches Blackbeard and his 10 captains. It could also match Shanks, Mihawk (if they ally) and the current 9 existing subordinates he has (including Rockstar). It could be the 11 of 12 Zodiac admirals without Aokiji). Finally, if Im and the Gorosei play a role, it's possible Im, Gorosei, Kong and 5 unknown world government operatives (not CP-0, but potentially people who work under Kong and Control the 4 blues plus Grandline).

I do personally think these Marine and WG factions exist (5 unknown characters each). Plus it does not include CP-0 or the SSG, but I think the former is reserved for the Revolutionaries while the latter are possible arc villains coming up.
Yeah, looking at current events in the story, WG should be locked with the Revolutionaries.

SSG I think would make for interesting antagonists for an upcoming arc with how mysterious they are yet already hold so much weight.
 
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