Who is Stronger?


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Proof is that Kings vivre card lists him as the strongest after Kaido.

You are right about Kings advantages but King is also granted durability due to being an ancient Zoan just like Queen. There is absolutely no proof that Queen is more durable than Queen. I would also argue that King is physically stronger than Queen because everyone he attacks ends up going through structures. Queens needs the tech he has because his fruit doesn’t grant him much.

You don’t think Killer can damage Queen after the story told us he damaged Kaido? It doesn’t matter if you want to believe it or not it happened. How much damage he did is debatable but whatever he did to Kaido will hurt Queen a ton more.

That entire Hells memory is just speculation. Just like you can’t say how strong it is I can’t say how weak it is. So until it does something that warrants it being compared to Kama Sonic it’s weaker than Kama Sonic and that’s just a fact.

Sanji was only arguably Killers level when we had no feats for Killer now that Killer has feats Killer > Sanji. Killer fought Zoro, Kaido & Big Mom. Sanji hasn’t fought anyone of Zoro level (Zoro is the weakest in that group by far who is stronger than Queen who Sanji is struggling with) in order to be compared to Killer. He also doesn’t have the portrayal of being stronger than Killer. It’s a reason Killer was a Supernova and Sanji wasn’t.

So your argument is pure I like Sanji so he’s stronger with zero evidence to back it.
Zoro is the "strongest" after Luffy, that doesn't mean Zoro isn't close to Sanji, he is...
Oda made King and Queen's bounties 5% apart for a reason... Zoro and Marco both put both of them on the same level of difficulty in their descriptions, I don't know why you feel the bizarre need to downplay Queen.

King uses a gimmick sword and is a lunarian, neither King nor Queen rely entirely on their fruits as 1 dimensional fighters...

Queen literally smashed Big Mom's memory back into her, and was so powerful in his snake form that Sanji- who was on Queen's level for the entire fight got low diffed by the strength disparity.

You can't say how strong Kama Sonic is either, it did nearly nothing to Kaido after a short scream, congratulations that is Raizo level.

Sanji fought Drake, toyed with Page one without Diable jambe, and was fighting King AND Queen 2vs1 for a short period of time.
Killer didn't "fight" BM and Kaido, he took pot shots against them and stalled them, ultimately doing no damage and getting relegated to Hawkins. Fighting Queen is better portrayal than fighting Hawkins, by a large margin.
 
So what would you rather believe?

DR Law > Cracker ~ Doffy > DR Luffy?

Characters get stronger offscreen in order to stay relevant. This is the nature of Shonen manga. Law was weaker than Cracker/Doffy/Jack in Dressrosa. He’s YC1 level now.
There's basically half a dozen dude in DR who're stronger than Cracker.

Characters don't jump from YC4 to YC1 by doing nothing and not receiving any clear PU.
 
If Kidd and Law contribute equally to defeating BM. :whitepress:Then they are both the strongest SN right after Luffy. :endthis:No if and buts, the three SN captains have always had equal portrayal alongside each other despite the huge gap in feats and abilities shown between Luffy and the other two :kata:
 
It may actually be the blood causing the raid suit to adjust to his changed lineage factor since that’s the only thing Oda showed from that part of wano
But how will that help Sanji negate the transformation? Basically it sounds like what he did is the key to figuring out how he can undo the exoskeleton transformation stuff, at least partially.
 
If Kidd and Law contribute equally to defeating BM. :whitepress:Then they are both the strongest SN right after Luffy. :endthis:No if and buts, the three SN captains have always had equal portrayal alongside each other despite the huge gap in feats and abilities shown between Luffy and the other two :kata:
They might be the first to actually wound her on panel, but I can't see them beating BM, it doesn't make sense from a power scaling perspective, let alone a narrative perspective.
This is Luffy's journey to take down the yonkos, he took down half of the shichibukai personally one way or another; and has been saying he will take down BM to multiple people for 100s of chapters, BM isn't going down without at least fighting against Luffy properly.
 
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