Zoro vs King CoC Clash?!


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Seth

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It is true.
Oda is just trolling with the cliffhanger, purposely misleading the readers that Akainu is worried about samurais while actually it is about something else (King). Has happened last week, purposely misleading readers that Enma reacted to Hiyori playing shamisen, while turned out shamisen isn't the trigger this week.
Perhaps it leads to the mystery surrounding the extinction of King's race. Akainu knows the truth about the mass genocide of King's race but the records say that one Lunarian happened to run away successfully and they can't find him. That would lead to another mystery but this time behind King's costume which might indicate he wouldn't like to fully expose himself.

To counterargue statements like "But he has a bounty poster", "Queen speaks so casually about him being Lunarian so everyone can hear", "He has the characteristics of Lunarian".

Maybe he was once caught and put in the same room together with Kaido where they met. Maybe they weren't sure if he is a real Lunarian or Vegapunk made one since they performed mass genocide on them.

Too many possibilities here my head will hurt:zosleepy:

Ps.

King also could've pulled Itachi but not for someone but for his own satisfaction of being the one and only Lunarian:milaugh:
 
1st off Luffy literally received so many power ups out the ass this arc that I'm surprised he didn't explode for the overcompensation of him severly lacking in power before the rooftop.

2nd of all Zoro only received 1 power up throughout the whole timeskip arc and it happened in this chapter. Enma was always a nerf for him and he only now realizing how to truly wield Enma.
Oh yeah Enma was a nerf all right. A nerf against King and King alone. Yet as usual you all claim it was always sucking up Zoro's Haki all along. When in reality it instantly gave him the power to cut a yonko just from learning to control his haki output. Even now it's the catalyst to Zoro's new found power based on this chapter.

Not surprised. If Zoro had a splinter stuck in his foot you guys will claim that completely weakened him to the point where he couldn't fight at full strength.


Gotta say this post regarding Luffy is hella funny. He's the only guy to actually prove himself prior to wano against numerous commanders is somehow severly lacking in power?

 
LMAOOO

You think him being forshadowed as a CoC user ever since Punk Hazard, getting that revealed here and only mastering what he did on the rooftop to perma scar Kaido is a bigger asspull than fucking telepathy?

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“Foreshadowed” keyword wtf. He even stated himself that he has no idea the fuck was going on with his ashura, and now can suddenly use the most powerful powerup in one piece?? From being a slightly hinted coc user to now being one of the top coc users kaido was talking about.

The telepathy shit is garbage but that’s useless in a fight, zoro needed the biggest powerup in the series done through an asspull to beat a YC1.
 

Seth

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People who complained about Luffy's power weren't even Zoro fans in specific. It's mostly your average critics who were looking for some tension in the story. They didn't like the fact that Luffy, and characters in general, is being given the right power-ups at the right time.
It's like whatever now.

Zoro and Luffy are destined to beat colossal enemies next.

+ Oda set himself up for failure with this writing anyway. They are already knocking on the doors of two Yonko so what is there left after? Only Admirals? Gorosei? Another Crew?

Sure, Oda wants to prepare them for the final route but the execution was poor anyway and not only here. Almost every time.
 
Enma was not a nerf to him in the rooftop, it’s only a nerf now with king when he’s losing control of it. Enma literally helped him cut kaido, if you reread the rooftop fight, zoro can’t even cut kaido and he said he needed to use more of enma. Enma also emanated when he used ashura and was given a panel, so maybe it forcibly used zoro’s coc.

And again his acoc asspull is way worse than any of luffy’s powerups this arc. Luffy trained for his ryuo, and his acoc awakening is more logical than a guy who 20 chapters ago didn’t even knew he can use coc.
It's explicitly stated by King this chapter that Enma has been holding him back in this fight. Zoro even claims that he had to regulate and hold his haki back so Enma doesn't suck him dry and kill him. He was holding back this entire time and only now gave his sword all that he can. His 1st attack against Kaido didn't even have Hardening because he was weary of Enma and how much haki should he allow Enma to take. Put two and two together and reread this chapter.

Nothing can top off Luffy learning AdCoC by getting mashed up like a potato from Kaido and suddenly learning how to do telepathy because why not. Liffy's asspulls are downright treason in comparison to this chapter for Zoro.
 
It's like whatever now.

Zoro and Luffy are destined to beat colossal enemies next.

+ Oda set himself up for failure with this writing anyway. They are already knocking on the doors of two Yonko so what is there left after? Only Admirals? Gorosei? Another Crew?

Sure, Oda wants to prepare them for the final route but the execution was poor anyway and not only here. Almost every time.
My guess would have been Shanks crew and Shanks recruited Mihawk to join.

Also Zoro is going to be heavily injured the next arc due to Mink medicine so there's another Yonko level person waiting for him, BB, maybe an admiral, maybe BM in Elbaf

With Zoro being injured it gives Oda free range to do whatever he wants and keep the expectation, because everyone fought Kaido and was damaging him so in theory Luffy never "defeated" kaido in an all out 1v1
 

General Duke Hyuo

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I didn’t know if this warrants a thread, since it’s obvious and would be met with trolling, but the last lines of the chapter confirm CoC for Mihawk.

Zoro is aiming for the pinnacle of swordsmanship. Meaning he is aiming to be a King as questioned by King. Given the current titleholder for that position is Mihawk, that automatically makes Mihawk a Supreme King or Haoshoku user.
 
Ya you said this as well.

But somehow your posts were indicating that oden's haki is getting used especially during roof top when kaido mentioned Strange haki.


Anyway, what you think about Enma now?
I still think the only way to make a Black Blade is by the Sword absorbing a users Haki. That won't change until we get confirmation on what makes a black blade.

Other than that, Enma is a good powerup for Zoro. I don't even think what's happening now is an asspull, as it is inline with Zoro's character development throughout the series.
 
It's like whatever now.

Zoro and Luffy are destined to beat colossal enemies next.

+ Oda set himself up for failure with this writing anyway. They are already knocking on the doors of two Yonko so what is there left after? Only Admirals? Gorosei? Another Crew?

Sure, Oda wants to prepare them for the final route but the execution was poor anyway and not only here. Almost every time.
oda has spent more than 24 years drawing manga normal that it does not take 10 chapters to explain them.
From now on the future PUs will be colossal and fast which is normal otherwise it will take 2 years to explain each PU of the mugiwara
 

Reborn

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I still think the only way to make a Black Blade is by the Sword absorbing a users Haki. That won't change until we get confirmation on what makes a black blade.

Other than that, Enma is a good powerup for Zoro. I don't even think what's happening now is an asspull, as it is inline with Zoro's character development throughout the series.
How Enma is PU when it has been stated that it was holding zoro back until now?
 
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