Has Queen been defeated?


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Didn't he say it looks like CoC without it being CoC?
Lanji has gotten a laundry list of PU in Wano, only in Lanji Piece is he getting CoC and only after the other SH also get a dozen of PU offered to them. :brootea:
Copium :pepecafe:

Probably upset that Zolo need magical weapon to beat King and still struggling while Sanji fight Queen better than him. Stop with 'Ws and Ls', kid. No need to be emo XD.
 
You don't actively have that effect without hitting anyone yet though and this effect is different from the rest, Titty. Come now, 'Moe Fetish' and copium is getting to you.

There is sound, visual, damage, and things being done to effect on Queen. What you mean?

It is possible as again many hints even before this have Sanji having COC, so again it could be apart of that as same with Asura. I am saying to not underestimate that like you try to put on chapters about characters.
Sanji can get Coc in future. Idc about that.

Point is that this attack in particular has has ZERO similarities with CoC. None.

You can pretend it's special form of CoC unlike any we've seen, you can pretend it's ACoA, you can call it a special 4th form of haki. It's fine. Just don't act like it's canon implication. What's so hard to understand?

It could be CoC. It could be anything. But rn it's just baseless to say there are heavy or even light implication
 
"Sanji loses to king"
As if King's fire is hotter than Sanji or has even CoO to keep with Sanji's speed. He couldn't even hurt RS Sanji (no exoskeleton) , Exo Sanji tank King attacks

The only beast pirate beating Sanji is Kaido
 
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He didnt do it until now if Oda wants he can draw Sanji with Hardening even with black pants thats just an excuse.
Hardening and Armanent different terms. Tashigi can use Armanent but not Hardening. Same thing with Sanji too he is adding it to his attacks but not as strong as Hardening.

Oda just needs to make it shiny. You can see a difference with his black suit and with shiny Hardening. I just showed you a panel of that above with Sai's shoes.

Bro this is pure headcanon. There is nothing to suggest Sanji has CoC right now. Zoro fans at least has a lot of foreshsdowing not a lightning on a flame.
Bruh it been shown as even King hasn't shown Haki on his body, but he is using it in the fight. Your in black and white manga in character who wears dark-color clothes. It's hard to do that and show that if we see same thing on King.

Hard to make it shiny from the flames that on that effect.

Nah same energy as it giving vibes on COC hinted as Asura did and it been foreshadowed on Sanji having COC, it's nothing new here.
 
Queen is nerfed from fighting with Marco Chopper and others. Sanji is nerfed because of fighting and Black Maria.
Oda always does nerfed opponent vs nerfed Strawhat.
King vs Zoro and Kaido vs Luffy is the same too.
 
Problem with Sanji vs Queen is 100% paneling and setup. Ifrit Janbe gets all of 3 pages to show you everything, in a chapter that's only 15 pages long. The fight with Queen is spit up over multiple chapters.

Compare this to his fight with Jabra, it's 2 back to back 19 page chapters. When Diable Jambe is shown, you get pretty crazy paneling like this:



Then the fight even continues for 8 more pages because Jabra uses his best attack in the air, before we get a clean shot of his face getting thrown into the floor by another hit.

Queen really doesn't get this. It's a bunch of attacks that caps off with Winch Queen. After this it's a few attacks from Sanji, followed by story exposition with a 3rd character, followed by 3 pages of the powerup, where you don't really get this impressive panel of the villain losing.

And that's not to say Oda lost his touch or anything, he literally gave great paneling like this for Jinbe, Franky, and Robin against the F6.

It's kind of why it doesn't "feel" like it's the end to me, but tbh I can see it just being over at this point.

Weird thing to note, Oda doesn't show Queen's reaction at all to getting hit. No eye shots, only his transformed mouth. Weird.
 
What do you mean you don't revert to base when you pretend to be knocked out? What are you talking about?

How is O-lin not "carrying" an argument? Because she didn't jump on him? Means what?
The context of that scene was abundantly clear. Olin two-shotted him, fodder say he got KOd, he's reverting back to base. Meanwhile she's looking for oshiruko.

Reverting back to base was a clear sign that he was knocked out. And he had no reason to "pretend" by reverting back that because Olin wasn't paying any attention to him nor cared about the dinosaur.

i honestly don't think ulti was knocked out
white eyes doesn't mean getting knocked out kings eyes where withe last chapter kiado had multiple withe eye in this arc lufft had with eye after getting hit by katas spear
White eyes + falling down after a Yonko attack = knocked out. She literally didn't get back up in that same chapter when shit went down. She was knocked out.
 
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