Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1034 Spoilers Discussion

[Fn Lucci]

its not a Judge PU... sanji literally said he's heating his leg to greater flames so the cracks or streaks may even be plasma streaks that form when molecules are charged due to heat.

It's both Sanji and Judge

Why is it only Zoro fans saying that Queen is weak?

Because Sanji is fighting him now. Other people were going on about how he sucks back when they assumed it'd be Sanji vs King

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Why is it only Zoro fans saying that Queen is weak?

If they say Queen is weak they think it will make Zoro and King look stronger in comparison

 

[JyThony]

Why is it only Zoro fans saying that Queen is weak?

You know why

 

[The White Crane]

It depends on how much of a buff he gets from awakening

Ok, what about the Adv. Coc, then?

 

[Monkey D. Luffy]

Yes, if Oda could portray King with something individual that would show him on another level, like King being a character with awakening, advCoC and etc... So that the average reader will have no doubts that King is the strongest calamity.

But all we have now are isolated feats that are merely interpretive, you can say King's special race is better, I can say all advanced science in Queen's cyborg body is better. And then we would never reach a consensus.
Since both of them besides the dinosaur DF have super special powers
Oda could have written the story in a different way for us to put King on another level.

Now, you're looking for justifications to separate King and Queen, when that was never Oda's intention,

Oda simply wouldn't draw Marco, Zoro and scabbards putting King and Queen as equally powerful enemies
Oda might not have done both K&Q in the 1.3B range
Oda might not have made both of them introduced together and rivaling each other
Oda could not have made King and Queen act as a pair several times, like when they tried to stop Marco and Zoro from reaching the roof, and Marco dealing with them equally, also make them as a pair by destroying the entire main stage until Zoro and Sanji enter. And also acting as a duo in Oden's flashback defeating the scabbards

Oda could have chosen another narrative and given King individual portraits, individual presentation and individual exaggeration to show he's on another level, but Oda has exhaustively portrayed King and Queen together as rivals/doubles who are on the same level.

Take Katakuri for example, he was never grouped with Smoothie, he was the only son of BM who achieved 1B+, he had CoC, special paramecia and DF awakening. Whose manga declared him the ''invincible brother'' and Big Mom's strongest son.
King didn't have a special portrait like Katakuri, in fact he had a special exaggeration of YC, only he was shared with Queen
That's why I put Katakuri, King and Queen on the same level.

Katakuri's hype isn't relative to himself but to number twos of Yonkou crews. He seems specialized because he substitutes Big Mom for the big boss fight and is Luffy's final hurdle before fighting the Yonkou. King and the other YC don't have that hype (except Jack during Zou Arc) because they're irrelevant to Luffy at this point.

Oda drawing King and Queen side-by-side isn't an indicator they're equals. It's just confirmation bias. All it means is they're Kaido's number two and three. King is the highest value card of the trio. He is confirmed the strongest member and leader of the Lead Performers. He has the highest bounty. He was even drawn with the number twos in a recent colorspread. It's blatantly obvious King is the "Katakuri" of the Lead Performers.

 

[JyThony]

Ok, what about the Adv. Coc, then?

There will be a gap

 

[ConquistadoR]

The same dudes who said Luffy is continents above Zoro after his ACoC powerup are the same ones saying that Sanji is suuuuuuper close to Zoro now, even though the portrayal of Queen and King in their respective 1v1s have been night and day.

You know what it is.

 

[BleakAsh]

I may.... MAYYYY HAVE FOUND.. AVERY BIGASS

MAYYYYYY have found

THE SCIENCE BEHIND SANJI'S NEW IFRIT JAMBE AND WHY IT PRODUCES LIGHTNING STREAKS.

this is process is called
.
Corona discharges, which are caused by an electrical discharge produced by the ionization of the surrounding atmosphere which means the air has become conductive...

what i hypothesize is going on is that.. sanji's leg is so hot that its rapidly converting air molecules into ions (charged either positive or negative) which makes it possible for current to exist in the air around Frit jambe..aka ionization of air.
Hence enabling producing the huge white Lightning strikes rapidly which are no different than big mom's Indra ( design wise)


@MonsterZoro @Chrono @Chaves @Arrow @Worona Woro @sanjikun @Finalbeta @Sasparan @Vinsmoke D. Zolo

 

[Peroroncino]

The same dudes who said Luffy is continents above Zoro are the same ones saying that Sanji is suuuuuuper close to Queen now, even though the portrayal of Queen and King in their respective 1v1s have been night and day.

You know what it is.

Best tag

 

[BleakAsh]

so its not haki... ODA LOVESY SCIENCE WITH GERMA

 

[ConquistadoR]

Oda drawing King and Queen side-by-side isn't an indicator they're equals. It's just confirmation bias. All it means is they're Kaido's number two and three. King is the highest value card of the trio. He is confirmed the strongest member and leader of the Lead Performers. He has the highest bounty. He was even drawn with the number twos in a recent colorspread. It's blatantly obvious King is the "Katakuri" of the Lead Performers.

They would continue to pussyfoot around that and claim King and Queen are (near) equals.

Even though one is giving a stronger opponent near death experiences constantly while the other allowed his opponent to casually have a midlife crisis in between the battle.

 

[Kuro Ashi]

The same dudes who said Luffy is continents above Zoro are the same ones saying that Sanji is suuuuuuper close to Queen now, even though the portrayal of Queen and King in their respective 1v1s have been night and day.

You know what it is.

Maybe then Sanji should get credit for how he makes someone who got comparable portrayal to King outside his 1 vs 1 with Sanji look in their fight

 

[ConquistadoR]

Maybe then Sanji should get credit for how he makes someone who got comparable portrayal to King outside his 1 vs 1 with Sanji

"Comparable Portrayal" when King almost has Zoro at death's doors multiple times even if he has a small foot wrong while Queen allowed Sanji to have a midlife crisis in between the battle while not using all his abilities because "muh Germa!"

 

[Monkey D. Luffy]

They would continue to pussyfoot around that and claim King and Queen are (near) equals.

Queen insinuating a "number two" and "three" crushes this "equal duo" crap they so desperately want Zoro and Sanji to be.

 

[The White Crane]

There will be a gap

Interesting. Mind detailing how big? As in, say, Katakuri - Cracker gap, for example.

 

[ConquistadoR]

Queen insinuating a "number two" and "three" crushes this "equal duo" crap they so desperately want Zoro and Sanji to be.

Zoro just got the same powerup which made Luffy a bonafide top tier, to beat King.

But let's look at the mental gymnastics.

 

[Bogard]

King vs RS Sanji: Sanji quickly chocked and sent crashing in rubbles
Queen vs Stronger base Sanji: Queen getting one sidedly beaten down the moment he ran for a prostitute

No wonder Queen started hyping King as an unbeatable monster

 

[BleakAsh]

King vs RS Sanji: Sanji quickly chocked and sent crashing in rubbles
Queen vs Stronger base Sanji: Queen getting one sidedly beaten down the moment he ran for a prostitute

No wonder Queen started hyping King as an unbeatable monster

LMAO

 

[Kuro Ashi]

"Comparable Portrayal" when King almost has Zoro at death's doors multiple times even if he has a small foot wrong while Queen allowed Sanji to have a midlife crisis in between the battle while not using all his abilities because "muh Germa!"

Sure, Queen could have destroyed Sanji pre power up, he just fucks around

He fucked up by letting Sanji get his power up, and then Sanji became just that strong once he did

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King vs RS Sanji: Sanji quickly chocked and sent crashing in rubbles
Queen vs Stronger base Sanji: Queen getting one sidedly beaten down the moment he ran for a prostitute

No wonder Queen started hyping King as an unbeatable monster

Queen said that King can survive in any natural environment not that he can't be defeated in battle

Also current Sanji is in a different realm going from getting low mid diffed by a Queen who's holding back almost his whole arsenal, to mid diffing the same Queen going all out

 

[ConquistadoR]

Sure, Queen could have destroyed Sanji pre power up, he just fucks around

He fucked up by letting Sanji get his power up, and then Sanji became just that strong once he did

Queen landed two hits (the Snakemove and that one moment when he overpowered him Doc Oc style in CQC) on Sanji the entire battle bruh. He also landed two rockets launcher moves on himself btw.

Compare that to how King vs Zoro has been.

Sure, I think Queen is stronger than Smoothie and the gap between King & Queen is closer than Katakuri & Smoothie. There still exists a gap nonetheless.