Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1049 Spoilers Discussion

[JoNdule]

There is just no way possible this is the conclusion of Kaido being defeated. First Emperor to go down to the main protagonist. Just a beefed up punched similar to the one that took Doflamingo out. No witnesses. No threat to the Country. The raid went about as smooth as humanly possible.

Not a single thing about this is structured in any way shape or form as to how Oda sets up the conclusion of a final villain defeat. He might as well have kept the battle of Onigashima out on the Ocean, instead of moving everything to the mainland, if it was all supposed to amount to nothing.

The final battle on the Mainland is where everything is going to conclude.

You're coping
You were coping like this too for the past battles.

Citizens will se a defeated kaido
That's it.
People in Onigashima know that kaido is fighting luffy, if they cant sense him then he lost

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

Stop reading 3 pieces

Not his fault you can't read.

 

[Hades]

The difference between Kaido and BM is significant.

If Oda really plans to have Bigmom vs Luffy, then the difference will become insignificant....anyways it is just big if...never be so sure with Oda choices for most part...

 

[Lor D. Coast]

Biased mod. Queen is there just invisible.

You never know.

 

[omegalul]

if you want to see the true gap between meme and kaido, look at misery and flaming dragon

 

[Butters]

So we are back at Kaido x BM debate?

 

[Jailer]

There is just no way possible this is the conclusion of Kaido being defeated. First Emperor to go down to the main protagonist. Just a beefed up punched similar to the one that took Doflamingo out. No witnesses. No threat to the Country. The raid went about as smooth as humanly possible.

Not a single thing about this is structured in any way shape or form as to how Oda sets up the conclusion of a final villain defeat. He might as well have kept the battle of Onigashima out on the Ocean, instead of moving everything to the mainland, if it was all supposed to amount to nothing.

The final battle on the Mainland is where everything is going to conclude.

The samurai on Onigashima know that, not everyone needs to be witness of this moment, they see a Kaido falling over their city defeated, that's all they need.

 

[JoNdule]

Kaido is much much much stronger.

Yeah sure in your manga
In one piece Oda has paired kaido with BM
The only difference is that kaiaod is faster and gas stronger AP with better adcoc

You guys don't understand crap
Saying kaido mid diffs BM is claiming BM isn't yonko level and cant split the sky

You can't mid diff someone whom your CoC are equal
If he could mid diff or low diff her, they wouldn't split the sky!

 

[Franosuke]

these are not hints to zkk, they are just statements of zoro fighting vs king and actually cutting a dragon like ryuma… basically you are saying that ZKK has already happened but the K stands for King

What exactly would you consider a "hint" then? Zoro claiming he's gonna kill Kaido over and over again the way that Luffy says he'll be PK? Stuff like that wouldn't be "hints," they're too explicit. If anything, you guys would probably be calling them red herrings either way

Zoro didn't cut a real dragon, no one saw it, and it wasn't in the flower capital...it's hardly a moment befitting of a "legend":

 

[WaidoWSC]

There is just no way possible this is the conclusion of Kaido being defeated. First Emperor to go down to the main protagonist. Just a beefed up punched similar to the one that took Doflamingo out. No witnesses. No threat to the Country. The raid went about as smooth as humanly possible.

Not a single thing about this is structured in any way shape or form as to how Oda sets up the conclusion of a final villain defeat. He might as well have kept the battle of Onigashima out on the Ocean, instead of moving everything to the mainland, if it was all supposed to amount to nothing.

The final battle on the Mainland is where everything is going to conclude.

Logically yes, but I‘m sure Oda is also tired from Wano.

He may end it next chapter. I mean the fighting aspect of Kaido vs Luffy. I mean that Fire Dragon that Kaido has turned in, has like 0 purpose..

 

[Peenix]

EoS Teach will be a different level, Luffy had all 3 haki advanced + awakening for Kaido alone, EoS Teach could well mid diff her,

I think he's stealing Luffy's fruit, but rn he's the weakest Yonko

 

[Shisui]

What better feats?
King has no better feat than Katakuri
None zero.
King feats are cracker tier at best

King fought zoro who is only above luffy in DC/lethality then lost low diff to AdCOc zofo
He fought a distracted zoro

A YC1 with no haki feats

Imagine being called King with no King's haki

Saying all that, he still puts Kat in the blender. I am not even trolling when I say Kat won't get past Queen which is beyond sad

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

I can´t wait to see this monster, im pretty sure he was very op...

Dude wanted to be the fucking King of the World and three of his underlings ended up becoming emperors , his haki must have been fucking insane

 

[DJOMOLO]

Because Oda skipped over the entire Rocks section despite showing us his childhood

So? He could easily show it after. He showed Big Mom talking to a young Kaido. I think we'll see more of Kaido's past as we move towards the ending of the arc

 

[Gorosei Informer]

Tbh I kinda want Kaido to come back in a similar way to how Crocodile did. Maybe even Doflamingo too and definitely Enel as well. For all of them to return I mean.

If Oda doesn't want to kill off his major villains, then at least bring them back like he did with Crocodile. What he did with Crocodile for Impel Down and especially Marineford was some of the most unexpected, badass, iconic, epic, fun, thrilling etc writing I've ever seen!

Also biased because I am a Crocodile stan but the way he was cruising around no fucks given and doing his own thing, including trying to attack Whitebeard, attacking Akainu instantly and BISECTING HIM (cut him in half) instantly from the ice was INSANE!

I was gonna say this is what Marineford and especially Crocodile vs Akainu felt like but it fits so well for Mihawk's and Zoro's ship cutting moments ofc!:

I don't think there's any edits of it sadly:

Except this ofc!:

I don't think Kaido should be limited to this arc, especially as Orochi stole so much of the limelight too. Kaido deserves more than this, Big Mom got 2 major arcs and build up from Fishman Island too and I feel Kaido has a potentially greater role to play. Seeing him go ham against the WG would be so catharthic, badass and fun too!

But on the other hand, he could get the Whitebeard treatment and just go out like an absolute boss potentially, a repeat of Whitebeard's final stand at the War of the Best/Paramount Summit War pr w/e at Marineford ofc.

Since Oars Jr is dead I think and Oars is ofc, the Oni race is near extinct now AFAIK, I don't think Kaido is a "pure oni" either and hence why he is so difference in resemblance and height to Oars and Oars Jr, why he seems more "human" ironically despite loathing humans so much. If Kaido does die and assuming Oars Jr is dead, that means Yamato is the only Oni left? She's only part Oni too by the looks of it, especially if her mother is not an Oni too?

Idk if the Numbers count here (pun not intended) as they're "artificial ancient giants" or "artifical oni" as you will but I suspect we may see more Oni at Elbaf potentially. There's some certain frost themed places that we still need to know more about that are mentioned in OP and related to Kaido and Oni and Elbaf going by Norse mythology is going to have a frost themed area/realm or w/e too.

IIRC correctly too, didn't Kaido use a move called NINE WORLDS RAGNAROK versus Luffy before too?! Or at least something to that effect?

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

Yeah sure in your manga
In one piece Oda has paired kaido with BM
The only difference is that kaiaod is faster and gas stronger AP with better adcoc

You guys don't understand crap
Saying kaido mid diffs BM is claiming BM isn't yonko level and cant split the sky

You can't mid diff someone whom your CoC are equal
If he could mid diff or low diff her, they wouldn't split the sky!

His fighting ability >>> hers

 

[Peenix]

There is just no way possible this is the conclusion of Kaido being defeated. First Emperor to go down to the main protagonist. Just a beefed up punched similar to the one that took Doflamingo out. No witnesses. No threat to the Country. The raid went about as smooth as humanly possible.

Not a single thing about this is structured in any way shape or form as to how Oda sets up the conclusion of a final villain defeat. He might as well have kept the battle of Onigashima out on the Ocean, instead of moving everything to the mainland, if it was all supposed to amount to nothing.

The final battle on the Mainland is where everything is going to conclude.

As crazy as this might sound, the good guy beat the bad guy in One Piece

 

[Seth]

His fighting ability >>> hers

You won't talk sense into his takes.

For him Yonko status means they are all equal with no one havin edge over the other.

Yet he claims BM > Shanks based on nothing.

 

[Butters]

Yeah sure in your manga
In one piece Oda has paired kaido with BM
The only difference is that kaiaod is faster and gas stronger AP with better adcoc

You guys don't understand crap
Saying kaido mid diffs BM is claiming BM isn't yonko level and cant split the sky

You can't mid diff someone whom your CoC are equal
If he could mid diff or low diff her, they wouldn't split the sky!

:laughmoji:

 

[Jailer]

I think he's stealing Luffy's fruit, but rn he's the weakest Yonko

Lol