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So we know thw Gorosei just wanted to hide Luffy's true power and identy thus they gave him a lower bounty. Zoro and Sanji will obviously not get affected by this....given Law and Kidd got extremely bounties anyways.

Both Zoro and Sanji will probably get above 1.5 mill
Nah I think whoever assigns bounties did not get the “right” info. Morgans was told that Luffy, Kidd, and Law defeated BM and Kaido. Like it was a 3V2 the entire time. Thats why their bounties got split in 3. Makes me wonder if later on, they will get the right information and do a reissue on Luffy’s bounty.
 

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Queen ruled Udon since forever. It is very possible that Queen and King have kept Udon as a hideout to house the beast pirates.
They were drinking sake, and GB himself said that they attacked first and the fodders still shouted K&Q's name as if they were subordinate to them.
King has bandages on his face too
You forgot that Udon is run by Babanuki, who is loyal to Tama, an enemy to Beast Pirates?
You've taken a lot of Ls recently. I guess the ZKK copium has really taken a number on you
Lack of common sense brings an L to you every day. :goyea:
 
People jump to conclusions without any nuance whatsoever.
First, Oda doesn t use any logic when drawing a fight, he only goes by hype.
Second, King and Queen got out of a fight a week ago where one was grilled hard and the other nearly cut in half.
Third, even Akainu wasn't able to neg diff fresh commanders but you are willing to believe that King and Queen were fresh and got neg diffed ?
Finally, you need to remember that this drawn by the same guy who made Kaido neg diff Luffy, then Apoo one shotting Luffy, then Ulti going toe to toe with Luffy to finally make Luffy ridicule Kaido...0 sense

Greenbull negging is just Oda's way to say ''Admiral very stronk'', nothing powerscaling wise can be concluded here.
 
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On the other hand, does Kizaru himself even have any bad matchups? in all of the series, not just admirals?
I can only see Teach with his darkness fruit countering him
Fujitora arguably does since gravity alters the trajectory of light (and not just black holes - those fully absorb light, but any large body like a planet or star bends light too. Technically whenever Fuji makes someone feel heavy he's creating gravity stronger than the earth's.).
 
Disagree on the Commander rankings but even I think King and Queen were nerfed due to their injuries a bit. IRL, Losing a wing makes a bird struggle for months due to the change in body weight which affects Balance. King probably works the same way although I wouldnt rely much on such logic in manga debates. Secondly, the power in KoH Dragon Damnation was immense, King got cut by an attack that's well above his paygrade which negg'd his strongest attack, sword, Ko'd and maimed him. Even Kaidou took weeks to recover from Togen Totsuka an attack well within his paygrade. I dont think the time King needs to get back to 100% is just a week. Same applies for Queen and Beouf Burst.
Makes sense that they would still be recovering given the Kaido-TTotsuka analogy, however the way that the chapter frames the context is that GB really did solo K-Q super casually, at best only getting his pants ripped. K-Q were probably no less than 70-80% of their full state. This was clearly a GB hype chapter given GB said he wouldn’t lose to mere commanders and K-Q were simply just victims of the GB hype. Much like how Marco was victim to BB Yonko hype (all out war) Pre-Udon Luffy to Kaido hype (one-shot), Queen to BM hype (despite being nerfed).

As for King being nerfed by a lack of wing, if that takes away his flying and permanently affects his Zoan flying then I would consider that a real nerf, otherwise it’s no different than Kidd lacking an arm or Aokiji lacking a leg.

Btw I missed a symbol I meant Yonkos >~ Admirals >>>>> YC1s (Kaido being absolute strongest).
 
Disagree on the Commander rankings but even I think King and Queen were nerfed due to their injuries a bit. IRL, Losing a wing makes a bird struggle for months due to the change in body weight which affects Balance. King probably works the same way although I wouldnt rely much on such logic in manga debates. Secondly, the power in KoH Dragon Damnation was immense, King got cut by an attack that's well above his paygrade which negg'd his strongest attack, sword, Ko'd and maimed him. Even Kaidou took weeks to recover from Togen Totsuka an attack well within his paygrade. I dont think the time King needs to get back to 100% is just a week. Same applies for Queen and Beouf Burst.
Also, they were obviously handcuffed by 100% pure Kairouseki. GB hit in dead dog.
 
Makes sense that they would still be recovering given the Kaido-TTotsuka analogy, however the way that the chapter frames the context is that GB really did solo K-Q super casually, at best only getting his pants ripped. K-Q were probably no less than 70-80% of their full state. This was clearly a GB hype chapter given GB said he wouldn’t lose to mere commanders and K-Q were simply just victims of the GB hype. Much like how Marco was victim to BB Yonko hype (all out war) Pre-Udon Luffy to Kaido hype (one-shot), Queen to BM hype (despite being nerfed).
Yeah I'm 100% not arguing against K+Q losing to Greenbull. This chapter just underlined that Admirals are fucking strong.

As for King being nerfed by a lack of wing, if that takes away his flying and permanently affects his Zoan flying then I would consider that a real nerf, otherwise it’s no different than Kidd lacking an arm or Aokiji lacking a leg.
And weren't those considered nerfs? Besides the point, they replaced it with other stuff theyre comfortable with using. King likely hasnt and no one would get over losing a limb within a week.

Btw I missed a symbol I meant Yonkos >~ Admirals >>>>> YC1s (Kaido being absolute strongest).
As long as we're getting there eventually. One step at a time! :myman:
 
The whole fucking Udon thing in this chapter doesn't make any sense tbh
Babanuki should still be under Tama's control, yet he's just chilling with the Beast Pirates?
Even if they are prisoners, why is there no handcuffs?
And the Alliance just let a bunch of Beast Pirates chilling like 2 kilometers from them?
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