Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1085 Spoilers Discussion

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An interesting point regarding the Nefratari’s being D clan. The Nefratari’s have been the rulers of Alabasta for 4000 years. Way before the void century

It’s unlikely the D clan existed before the void century given it’s symbolic meaning is “Enemies of god” and god here being celestial dragons

I think Anyone who rebelled against the WG in the void century is called a D

So the Nefratari family were NOT D clan UNTIL they rebelled against the WG…

Remember that the void century is 100 years long, and the WG was only formed at the very end of the 100 years

It’s possible that like lily’s father or grandfather are the ones who decided to join the WG… then the war happened for however many years against the ancient kingdom… And lily was born during that war time as the Nefratari kingdom was still part of the WG… but she took over at the end of the war, when the ancient kingdom was basically defeated and then she rebelled… And the Moment you rebel you become part of the D clan
 
the navy is an institution which is under the orders of the admirals exists only to serve the interests of the CDs

we will see to egghead who is stronger between a gorosei member or an admiral:cheers:
There's no problem if the Gorosei are stronger or not, admirals still top tiers in the series and nothing will change it.
 
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Most DF users are fodder without them, at least someone like Fuji can rely on his swordsmanship.
Yes. GB also has a sword. Yet none of them while being restricted used them. Fujitora is calling a meteor for the tiniest cockroach that gets on his way. GB is turning himself into the Forest of Amazon for the same reason.
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Why? Like if you want to turn Sabo escaping into a power scaling thing then what will you say about Wapol also escaping?

like for example if you say Sabo escaping means Gorosei should be just around commander level for failing to catch him

does that mean Wapol escaping actually puts the Gorosei on below Veteran level now since Wapol is legit fodder… Are the Gorosei like Carrot level or lower for failing to simply blitz Wapol? Hell I’m sure Carrot can blitz Wapol so this is even worse for the Gorosei

see, if want to power scale how fast anyone’s reaction speed here should be then it’s gets ridiculous when you add Wapol so it’s easier to say it’s simply PIS
Wapol wasn't surrounded like Sabo.

Wapol is not fodder like Cobra. Cobra is a true fodder. Civillian like. Wapol is somewhat strong. Has a DF etc.
 
It now makes sense how a member of the 20 kingdoms that defeated the ancient kingdom then turned around and betrayed the 20 kingdoms

It was probably Lily’s father or grandfather that joined the 20 kingdoms to fight the WG and the war took place over the entire 100 year void century… Lily isn’t the one that decided to join the 20 kingdoms… She was just born into the ruling family that was already at war with the ancient kingdom and part of the 20 kingdoms

at the end of the war when the Ancient kingdom was defeated, i think that’s when lily actually became the Queen Of the Alabasta and that’s when she betrayed the 20 kingdoms in secret to help the will of the ancient kingdom pass on in the Poneglyphs

And that’s when the Nefratari bloodline got the D name… The D clan is the enemy of the gods… You only get the D name when betray the WG… So the Nefratari bloodline wasn’t a D clan member until lily joined then when she betrayed the government
 
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