Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1143 Spoilers Discussion

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Exactly.
Kaido's presence had the same effect that Ryuma's presence had in Wano... in terms of keeping the World Government & its Admirals away from invading it.

Which is nothing new either, Orochi boldly said it to Cipher Pol's face.
Except, the WG still didn't invade after Kaido fell. The WG to this day, has zero intentions of taking over Wano because of the border, lol. Greenbull only went because of Luffy being in Wano(a pirate who would have been imprisoned under Kaidos rule)
 

ConquistadoR

The Rogue Prince
Except, the WG still didn't invade after Kaido fell. The WG to this day, has zero intentions of taking over Wano because of the border, lol. Greenbull only went because of Luffy being in Wano(a pirate who would have been imprisoned under Kaidos rule)
@Bold: And he himself admitted that he wouldn't have done so had Kaido been alive... a sentiment that Gaban also echoed. And that is all i really need.
 
@Bold: And he himself admitted that he wouldn't have done so had Kaido been alive... a sentiment that Gaban also echoed. And that is all i really need.
He wouldn't have needed to capture Luffy if Kaido was in Wano, though. Kaido sent Luffy to Udon.
Gaban also never echoed that sentiment, and has said literally nothing about fearing Kaido ever.
 

Fujishiro

Just chilling
No Admiral fans started upplaying the scabbards after Ryokugyu negged them.

We only started pointing out that Ryokugyu negged them way more cleanly than Kaido did. Lol
Testing them then clubbing the shit out of them in base > Wrapping injured versions of them in vines. Its more hardcore for me.

I dont like elemental powers or pokemon stuff I think I told you before right lol. Mano a mano battles are more my thing.
 
Whitebeard and Saint Shanks did the exact same thing, but I’ve never seen you argue that Kaido is stronger than them. Lol
The WG or other Yonko didn't even dare to attack Big Mom's territory when she was present and we know how weak she is as a top tier. BB only started attacking Tottoland after Big Mom was gone but I don't see anyone call her "top 1" lol.

The WG are freaking busted with the CP0, Holy Knights and Gorosei (still weaker force than the admirals, just facts) and you'd be insane to believe they wouldn't use Kaido and his entire territory to wipe their asses.
 
The cancer aids etc is all just an excuse from Oda for Whitebeard not being able to kill anyone despite his hype. Fact of the matter is he lead his crew to their deaths for someone he couldn't really save and the only reason the WBP is because of Shanks saving the day. Now the WBP are being hunted down and killed in mass by Weevil lol
This is all besides the point. Regardless of all that, he still had the most aura out of almost any character in the series.
 

TheAncientCenturion

I will never forgive Oda
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The WG or other Yonko didn't even dare to attack Big Mom's territory when she was present and we know how weak she is as a top tier. BB only started attacking Tottoland after Big Mom was gone but I don't see anyone call her "top 1" lol.

The WG are freaking busted with the CP0, Holy Knights and Gorosei (still weaker force than the admirals, just facts) and you'd be insane to believe they wouldn't use Kaido and his entire territory to wipe their asses.
It's lowkey outrageous how overpowered the World Government is as a faction, how morally bankrupt they are to inject slave-babies with devil fruits as experiments, but for some reason... Pussy out against the Yonko lol?

Oda just doesn't care for this type of world building.
 
>Greenbull said he wasn't going to invade Kaido's territory when he was around, clearly that means he was weaker then him in a 1v1 fight!
>Kaido only ran away from Shanks because of strength in numbers!
>Greenbull ran away from Shanks because he would lose a 1 on 1 fight
:choppawhat:
I do think the third point is valid since it's pretty obvious Shanks wouldn't straight up jump the dude, it's not even in character for him to do that
The rest are fair though
 
It's lowkey outrageous how overpowered the World Government is as a faction, how morally bankrupt they are to inject slave-babies with devil fruits as experiments, but for some reason... Pussy out against the Yonko lol?

Oda just doesn't care for this type of world building.
Have you not read my world balance tutorial for 5 year olds edition
Since even the most sane of Youtubers fail to grasp the concept

I thought its hightime I dropped you this quick easy to understand tutorial

The BoP is something that the WG depends on to achieve world balance


This BoP is something the Gorosei try to preserve and protect, as any chaos that ensues can lead to the rise of even more ambitious individuals


People like Roger are dangerous, because they're not only strong enough but also ambitious.
Someone like Whitebeard is benign because he has no interest in the throne
Kaido and Linlin were idle, which is why Gorosei didn't want to anger Kaido and create chaos
Shanks is powerful but he is not after the throne, so the Gorosei don't care
This is how their thought process works


Navy and Warlords ally to counter Yonko and create balance
This doesn't actually mean Navy + Warlords = 4 Yonko in a powerlevel sense. The presense, influence, and role each power plays is what creates BoP


The warlords are not chosen for strength, but influence. Why is that?


Because their job is to keep the weakling pirates in check and strike fear in rising pirates


Did people actually believe characters like Moria, Jinbe or Crocodile can shift the balance of an equation that includes the likes of
Admirals, Yonko, Garp, Sengoku or Mihawk


:laughmoji:
 

Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
The WG or other Yonko didn't even dare to attack Big Mom's territory when she was present and we know how weak she is as a top tier. BB only started attacking Tottoland after Big Mom was gone but I don't see anyone call her "top 1" lol.

The WG are freaking busted with the CP0, Holy Knights and Gorosei (still weaker force than the admirals, just facts) and you'd be insane to believe they wouldn't use Kaido and his entire territory to wipe their asses.
Roger ducks Big Mom and doesn’t fight her

@ConquistadoR ”but obviously Big Mom was weaker than Gold Roger”

Whitebeard actively bitches out at the prospect of fighting Kaido at multiple points

@ConquistadoR ”but obviously Whitebeard was stronger than Kaido”

Saint Shanks conveniently decides to move for the One Piece when Kaido and Big Mom die

@ConquistadoR ”but of course Saint Shanks was a pirate comparable to Kaido and Big Mom in power, maybe even above them.”

Ryokugyu comments that he wouldn’t attack Wano while Kaido was alive (which was more a commentary on the strength of the beasts as a force and not Kaido alone)

@ConquistadoR ”WELL THAT DECIDES IT”

I mean the hypocrisy is blinding. Lol
 
It's lowkey outrageous how overpowered the World Government is as a faction, how morally bankrupt they are to inject slave-babies with devil fruits as experiments, but for some reason... Pussy out against the Yonko lol?

Oda just doesn't care for this type of world building.
They had to have the entire HQ Fleet and the Warlords to face Whitebeard on their own territory. Going against one on their turf and not as much advantages? Not worth it.
 
I still love Shiryu. I just don’t stan him online lmfao.

Shiryu was already so strong and oozing portrayal pre timeskip, he really didn’t need a combat Devil fruit. Magellan had multiple Warlords and Ivankov shitting their pants in fear over him, and the Level 6 Prisoners also feared Magellan. Magellan negged the same Teach who defeated Ace in one shot:


And Shiryu was an equivalent or greater threat than Magellan before he even ate a fruit lol.

It really is a shame man. One day we’ll take Shiryu back from Zolo fans given how rapidly these idiots flush characters down the toilet when their agendas get humiliated lol.
I stan Teach, Akainu and Shiryu simultaneously online.

Would you discriminate against a man that stans Teach, Akainu and Shiryu simultaneously online? It takes more mental capacity than fighting Consort Radahn.

Teach > Yonko fans
Akainu > Admiral fans
Shiryu > Sword swallowers

It's a given that one of these 3's fans would slander at least one of these 3, It just happens that I'm deliberately oblivious to 99% of the agenda wars, unless I can squeeze a meme of it lol.
 
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