Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1165 Spoilers Discussion

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Supporting the Marines through the genocide games is obviously extremely immoral and everything, but tbh, I'm not sure why people are hung up on the Ace thing. I mean, it's immoral in it's own way, but nothing that crazy on Garps part, I don't think.
All Oda's fault.

He fucked up badly when the WG form necessary evil shifted to comically absolute evil with demons on top.
 
All Oda's fault.

He fucked up badly when the WG form necessary evil shifted to comically absolute evil with demons on top.
Sure, but I'm just talking about pre TS. He understood that Ace shouldn't be punished for his dad being evil, but once Sengoku became convinced that Ace was being groomed by WB to become the new PK, his hands are kind of tied, he can't really save him in that situation.

I don't think that's too crazy, tbh. I mean, I honestly think Luffy freeing impel down prisoners in that saga might have been more immoral.
 
That was peeps slandering him for the sake of it. But a lot of people started questioning his standing when it was revealed he had to train to defeat Chinjao. His defeat at Pirate Island fueled these arguments further.
In part, but who were?

Usually people with agenda against Garp, and still not nearly on the level of Garp = Commander level. At worst, they said he was inferior to Roger/WB.
 
Sure, but I'm just talking about pre TS. He understood that Ace shouldn't be punished for his dad being evil, but once Sengoku became convinced that Ace was being groomed by WB to become the new PK, his hands are kind of tied, he can't really save him in that situation.

I don't think that's too crazy, tbh. I mean, I honestly think Luffy freeing impel down prisoners in that saga might have been more immoral.
And tbh Ace was a pirate and big one to booth, fought the marine multiple times.

The sentence was right in every case.
 
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