Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1170 Spoilers Discussion

[DarkestKnightofSpoilers]

WB was Shanks equal

Mihawk is weaker

Kaido was the rumor man

don’t place too much importance on titles

only cause your Boy got no title

 

[Monkey D Theories]

I think I get why Oda had Gunko and Shamrock beat the shit out of Loki while he was chained up in seastones, with Gerth saying it will take weeks to recover @kekaro . Healthy Loki is likely too strong and I think we will only get to see his full power in the final war

He will come to full power once his sea stone cuffs are removed and he can use his DF.

 

[Monet]

Definitely Nidhoggr, you can clearly see the serpent shape

Maybe the first time post tk that shadow is not interesting lol

 

[ArturCantSpeakJapanese]

This is a massive upscale for Shamrock and the Gorosei

Yes, ACoC counters regeneration. But also if your opponent themselves has ACoC, it becomes a lot more difficult to negate.

ACoC isn’t a silver bullet for CoC-weilding immortals, it simply levels the playing field.

yeah the gorosei were obviously just blocking with ACoC in egghead like Rocks did in God Valley.

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

He will come to full power once his sea stone cuffs are removed and he can use his DF.

I don't think it has regen ability

 

[ArturCantSpeakJapanese]

Definitely Nidhoggr, you can clearly see the serpent shape

i think its still between nidhoggr and fenrir but the dragon is much more likely

 

[OPKnK]

You guys need stop coping, this explanation doesnt make sense he let all the guards die.

They were trying to stop him not kill him and all the guards died .
They were not strong enough to stop the fight so he end up killing everyone but them and jural .
It not coping they fail in stooping him from killing the guards and fail in hoping loki could save him .

 

[Djordje]

Domi reversi loki can be main boss of elbaph tbf

Isnt whole point of releasing Loki his ability ( power ) that can deal with holy knights , their dream monster creations and Domi reversi giants ?

I doubt straw hats can beat DR Loki , DR Giants and Holy knights and all their dream creations.

Also Imu -gunko is still there .

 

[SDfear]

Pay me and i give you a better translation

I'm broke

 

[kekaro]

I think I get why Oda had Gunko and Shamrock beat the shit out of Loki while he was chained up in seastones, with Gerth saying it will take weeks to recover @kekaro . Healthy Loki is likely too strong and I think we will only get to see his full power in the final war

That or he get domid and full healed only as a opponent was my theory

 

[TheD.]

So what did Lokis devil fruit even do?
it was base Loki and ragnir that killed Harald off

 

[Papadight92]

Maybe the first time post tk that shadow is not interesting lol

I can kiiinda see serpent-y design but the fingers throw me off. This is why i am leaning more towards Fjalar but Nidhogg is my second choice.

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

But also if your opponent themselves has ACoC, it becomes a lot more difficult to negate.

I mean they also have to be using AcoC for defense itself for that to matter

it doesn’t just automatically counter other people’s AcoC, you have to actively use it for defense

 

[Dragon777]

You keep on saying rocks was doing regen but we never saw it or was it mention in the fight .
Name one time in manga where character does regen and we not see it or was it mention .
You want to comapre to fights but there were no way the same.

Roger line were i using CoA and ACoC there no way i could not be hurting him .
Then garp said but he using CoC to guard so the cancel out each other .
There no damage unless we surpass that .
Which mean they were not doing any damage with there attacks from before until last attack where they surpass his CoC guard .

We got to agree to disagree here with rocks using regen.

Rocks was actually covered in bruises. We saw the fight, even though not every scene.

However, as said, if you think they didn't go beyond Rocks' haki in 2vs1, but Loki in 1vs1 did, that's even more hype for Loki tbh.

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

That or he get domid and full healed only as a opponent was my theory

Possible, I also had theory but someone brought up to me that it would be weird for Loki to get the bad guy role again instead of getting redemption by saving Elbaf, and I think he had a point.

 

[TheD.]

So Imu knew about ragnir and the legendary devil fruit and decided to do nothing for years?

 

[Dragon777]

Definitely Nidhoggr, you can clearly see the serpent shape

Not to mention the "lightning dragon" and the connection wiht the mythical rat.

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

So what did Lokis devil fruit even do?
it was base Loki and ragnir that killed Harald off

Well physicals stats are connected to Haki.

the physical stamina you have the larger potential for haki you can use. So we can say that Hybrid Loki was using more haki than base Loki can use, maybe

the last hit doesn’t matter. Gaban explained that the trick to beating immortals is to just keep hitting them with AdvCoC until their Regeneration slows down until it vanishes

Harald’s regeneration got slowed down enough by hybrid Loki that any hit from him would have done it at the end. Even base Loki was enough since the regeneration had been removed by then

 

[Papadight92]

So what did Lokis devil fruit even do?
it was base Loki and ragnir that killed Harald off

It weakened Harald enough for him to deal the finishing blow ( though Harald allowed him )

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Is Gaban saying only CoC attacks can hurt immortals? Not just damage but make them feel pain?