One Piece Chapter 965 Spoilers Discussion

[Sword God Ryuma]

So the standstill foght Buggy talks about is When Roger is already sick. Lmao

 

[Red Admiral]

Lmaooo, I can't fucking believe it!

These guys are so insecure about the monstrosity of the Admirals that they straight up made "Admiral Kitsune" canon, lmao. That one dude is straight up lying to. The moment a Marine gets a Coat whether you're an Admiral, Vice, or Rear, it always reads " Justice".

I have never ever seen a place more insecure about the Admirals strength than this place


Sengoku Hype

• "Garp is an exception"
• " The Admirals are weaker then Garp"

Once again Prime Sengoku was put on the same pedestal as Garp, now even from the pirate King himself.

The Pirate King admitting that an Admiral is a worthy rival, is just the biggest hype one can get......

Sengoku was acknowledged by Whitebeard and now even Roger, this dude is a fucking Goat, not mentioning that Oda gave him King's Haki.

Do you guys realise something, lol?
The sheer Fleet Admiral hype that Oda continuously giving us ?

What a monster is Sakazuki going to be, I'm not ready!

not really ... Sengoku and Garp are the only people can are able to give a fight to them

it don't mean Sengoku is on same level as Garp ...

nothing really changed

 

[Finalbeta]

Post-TS started with Zoro talking with Rayleigh

Zoro is the new Ray but he will simply get much much stronger

 

[Sadistic Senpai]

Roger became a heinous criminal once he got into Wolrd history stuff and went to raftel
They started covering his real name

WG will let you roam and do whatever but once you are a real threat by gaining knowledge then you are a very heinous to be erased

Exactly the point.
In fact, the biggest clue to that is they erased the island from History after the battle. Why????? because they don't want people to know what Xebec knew

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

Theirs no Jack in this chapter. Just shush and let the big boys talk.

Don't be baiting people Lil D. That's all I'm here to remind you of.

 

[Finalbeta]

whoi the fk is admiral kitsune ?

I honestly am in love with the name

 

[Chrono]

Don't be baiting people Lil D. That's all I'm here to remind you of.

Ok but how are my opinions bait

I believe Zoro and Sanji = Rayleigh. Its not bait if people cannot handle it.

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

First or all Kaido doesn't kill unless you refuse to cooperate many times.
BM doesn't kill unless you lie or betrays her

He didnt even kill Hyou after many years

Labelling Xebec as someone very bad doesnt work out since WG label anyone

Holy fuck... Are you implying that Kaido and big mom aren't evil? Given the state of Wano as a country and how fucked up Big mom's family is? You are actually gonna try and claim Big mom and kaido are good people?

No dude stop... Rocks allowed people on his own crew to kill each other... THAT IS NOT A GOOD PERSON'S CREW

Whitebeard himself literally says he had a bad experience being on such a crew... You are putting whitebeard up on this pedestal well he himself has said that the rocks crew was a bad experience just being on it


A good man doesnt have a bad crew... Shanks, Roger, Luffy’s crews are clearly shown having fun while Big mom and kaido's crews are shown having men who fear betray each other and and everyone is afraid of the captains

C'Mon man... At least wait for it to be confirmed what rocks was about but surely none if the reasoning you are using as of now carries much bearing

 

[Finalbeta]

roger == wb
:smithnie:

Yes but Roger had allegedly no devil fruit

 

[Red Admiral]

admiral kitsune ?

did I miss some thing?

Post automatically merged: Dec 12, 2019

Yes but Roger had allegedly no devil fruit

RESPECT CoC

 

[Finalbeta]

who says oden and ray fought
I only see roger talking about wb?

Probably next chapter lol

 

[Inspector_Mu]

Lmaooo, I can't fucking believe it!

These guys are so insecure about the monstrosity of the Admirals that they straight up made "Admiral Kitsune" canon, lmao. That one dude is straight up lying to. The moment a Marine gets a Coat whether you're an Admiral, Vice, or Rear, it always reads " Justice".

I have never ever seen a place more insecure about the Admirals strength than this place


Sengoku Hype

• "Garp is an exception"
• " The Admirals are weaker then Garp"

Once again Prime Sengoku was put on the same pedestal as Garp, now even from the pirate King himself.

The Pirate King admitting that an Admiral is a worthy rival, is just the biggest hype one can get......

Sengoku was acknowledged by Whitebeard and now even Roger, this dude is a fucking Goat, not mentioning that Oda gave him King's Haki.

Do you guys realise something, lol?
The sheer Fleet Admiral hype that Oda continuously giving us ?

What a monster is Sakazuki going to be, I'm not ready!

Sengoku has always been great
Garp fanboys and many fanboys wanted to make Garp greater than Sengoku

While in reality Sengoku was neck to neck

Sengoku ~ Garp
I can even say Sengoku >= Garp

 

[Chrono]

Holy fuck... Are you implying that Kaido and big mom aren't evil? Given the state of Wano as a country and how fucked up Big mom's family is? You are actually gonna try and claim Big mom and kaido are good people?

No dude stop... Rocks allowed people on his own crew to kill each other... THAT IS NOT A GOOD PERSON'S CREW

Whitebeard himself literally says he had a bad experience being on such a crew... You are putting whitebeard up on this pedestal well he himself has said that the rocks crew was a bad experience just being on it


A good man doesnt have a bad crew... Shanks, Roger, Luffy’s crews are clearly shown having fun while Big mom and kaido's crews are shown having men who fear betray each other and and everyone is afraid of the captains

C'Mon man... At least wait for it to be confirmed what rocks was about but surely none if the reasoning you are using as of now carries much bearing

No one is truly good or evil. Its all subjective.

 

[Finalbeta]

Poor Whitebeard not realizing that he just took a snake in his crew that will bite the hands of those who welcomed him and treated him as a son and a friend.

He has always been too gentle hearted. Look what it happened with Squardo. He was used to become the father of any kind of pirate lol.

 

[Sadistic Senpai]

This is extremely flawed reasoning... first of all the rocks crew was described as "people who fought and killed each other while being on the same ship"

Whitebeard and Kaido both imply that being on this crew was hell.

Are you saying the paragon of virtue would make a crew where it's fine to kill your own cree mates?

And secondly Momma and Kaido also followed Rocks and they are as evil as it gets so Whitebeard following Rocks has no bearing on how good or bad Rocks was given these evil fucks also followed him

First, that description was by the WG to picture them as bad and evil. Sengoku will not be saying "oh, they were good pirates but we eliminated them" LOL, Imu-sama would babyshake him (as KOL would say)

Secondly, WB and Kaido only implied that it's too much to handle for the captain to have people like that. WB never said that we killed each others. He just implied that their ego got the crew into their demise. And that's not speaking anything about Xebec. It just means he was screwed over because some of his crew members were too egotistical while he had his hands full with Garp and Roger to begin with.

Again, the only people describing them as evil is coming from WG side, which is not trusted when it comes to topic regarding Void century

 

[Inspector_Mu]

Exactly the point.
In fact, the biggest clue to that is they erased the island from History after the battle. Why????? because they don't want people to know what Xebec knew

Yep
Roger realised and it was too late to do a thing since he became sick

Imagine if Xebec Garp Roger joined hands ... they could have ended CDs reign

 

[Finalbeta]

I actually like Roger being a real pirate. Fuck every one. Anyone fucks with your peeps, they die. That must be where Shanks and his crew got their vibe from.

Shanks learned a lot of his own style from his captain, pretty sure of that. He also is real pirate.

 

[Dark Hound]

Lol, in that arc of the story, I actually believe Xebec was Luffy, while Roger was Kid. I mean we can already see Roger's manners in this chapter, we can already remember Garp stating the Roger destroyed an entire country just because someone badmouthed a crew member. That's something a villain does. Roger was the one who killed Squard entire crew.

I can't believe that people see Roger here as the saint who NEVER question if he was actually the right side of the matter or wrong

And NO, I do believe that there is right and wrong, there is good and evil. Doffy's speech is meant to stimulate your thinking, not overtake it and simply become a worshipper. It's meant to make you see the big picture. But doing evil acts, is EVIL, as simple as that, and doing good deeds is good. So, there is good and there is evil.

And One Piece characters fall inbetween those two terms "good and evil". But it's like a scale. Where you can fall ANYWHERE inbetween those two terms. Cause no one is purely good with no bad qualities or purely evil with no good qualities. But in that scale, you can be closer to evil or more far away. but still on the side of evil.

So, te gray area simply is too wide, and you can fall anywhere. But there is evil, and there is good, and Doffy's speech is meant for you to understand the other side of the coin and to understand other people view, but not that whatever you do, it's not evil or good. That's a villain speech after all, just meant to stimulate your thought and not blindly follow him. That's why he's a good villain, cause some people go word by word for him and obey his words LOL

You're going too far bruv lmao Doffy's speech has truth in it because mainly about Marines and Pirates.
WG is more evil than One Piece world people think.
And Pirates can be good like Luffy

That's why it's nuanced. Roger's comment was relating him to Ace. Who nullified all sacrifice made for him during Marineford because Akainu talked shit.

I think Roger was nuanced, more than WB who was more on the good person side. Roger was in the middle, because he was the freest person in the world. That's what true Pirate is.

But yeah I can see the relation between Kid and Roger, try to replace Roger with Kid in that panel it's perfect

Roger : "you guys are weak, bring the admirals !!"
Kid : "You wanna go back to Paradise in your mom's coochie ?! DIE ! HAHAHA"

 

[Finalbeta]

Why do ppl wank this bastard Orochi ?

We have genius evil master planners every arc. Arlong, Kuro, Doffy, Croc, even Hody

But apparently Orochi is a great character.
He's just an ugly version of Arlong, Kuro etc

I have attempted to understand the same without finding an answer. This Orochi man is quite weaker than Oden, let alone the rest.

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

No one is truly good or evil. Its all subjective.

Oh sure... But is anyone gonna say Luffy shouldn't beat the shit out of Big mom or Kaido since "its all subjective"? No... These guys must fall because Luffy is the Good guy and so they are the bad guys... the story has clearly framed it that it's good thing to defeat these guys... There is no ambiguity in whether we should defeat these guys for the good of very many characters who we care about in the story

So unless you think that Luffy maybe shouldn't beat these guys for whatever reason then by default, Luffy being the good guy means they are the bad guys