Spoiler One Piece Chapter 969 Spoilers Discussion

[ShadyOjiro]

it was revived by Luffy he was able to use haki , while he was kicked by everyone before , if his spirit were not broken the likes of kaido's men in Udon would not be a match for him not in the slightest

Even without Luffy he still believed in lady Toki words.

He was resisting ...he said it.

Luffy help no doubt but don't take away his own effort during these 20 years .

Moria gave up upon himself instantly .

 

[True God Moe]

What is the possibility of the barrier fruit being awakened

When Barto risked his life for Luffy and others and Awakes. During or at EOS, but if he does, then he be one of those who can be challenge for Luffy and others since imagine that especially combine with COO and COA, he be unstoppable and unhittable unless you be smart and strong about it XD.

 

[ardym]

that is what gonna happen in Wano

as Oda make such thing MF war came and now it is Wano war , and we will see BM and Kaido go down and the main actors would be Luffy and his army

 

[Nouryoku]

Food for thought:

Both Bartolomeo and Mr. 2 are from the East Blue. That would indicate that both the Bari Bari no mi and the Mane Mane no mi somehow ended up in the East Blue of all places.

What could that mean?

Well we know a certain ship arrive in East from Wano.

 

[Topi Jerami]

Judging from Wano people's reaction whenever the topic is Kaido
"But he's just too powerful"
"It's just impossible"
"No point to resist him, we have no way of win"
Even when Luffy saved them in Udon and Kaido officers threatened them using Kaido's name, they immediately turned on Luffy

^ Kaido is super duper powerful in Wano people's eyes.
Connecting the dots, won't be surprised that Oden and his scabbards got stomped by Kaido in next chapters. Not a close battle, but 1 sided stomping.

 

[Worst]

What is the possibility of the barrier fruit being awakened

0% imho xD

 

[King of Hearts]

Well we know a certain ship arrive in East from Wano.

That was years before all of this took place... I doubt the old man and woman were aboard that ship for a variety reasons, one being chronology.

 

[ShadyOjiro]

Judging from Wano people's reaction whenever the topic is Kaido
"But he's just too powerful"
"It's just impossible"
"No point to resist him, we have no way of win"
Even when Luffy saved them in Udon and Kaido officers threatened them using Kaido's name, they immediately turned on Luffy

^ Kaido is super duper powerful in Wano people's eyes.
Connecting the dots, won't be surprised that Oden and his scabbards got stomped by Kaido in next chapters. Not a close battle, but 1 sided stomping.

This opens the chance of Oden not being the one who scarred Kaido damm

 

[Worst]

Judging from Wano people's reaction whenever the topic is Kaido
"But he's just too powerful"
"It's just impossible"
"No point to resist him, we have no way of win"
Even when Luffy saved them in Udon and Kaido officers threatened them using Kaido's name, they immediately turned on Luffy

^ Kaido is super duper powerful in Wano people's eyes.
Connecting the dots, won't be surprised that Oden and his scabbards got stomped by Kaido in next chapters. Not a close battle, but 1 sided stomping.

Seeing how Skinny Kaido is in the flashback definitely not WSC at that time

 

[ardym]

Luffy revived the wills of all of the prisoners not only Hyo's

 

[Sword God Ryuma]

The user of the Bari Bari no Mi is Kurozumi Semimaru and the Mane Mane user is Kurozumi Higurashi

Oden demands that Orochi hand back the title of Shogun because he's merely a stand-in for Oden himself. However, Higurashi transforms into Sukiyaki and tells Oden that it's no use, the Daimyo already believe that Orochi is the shogun.

Oden finally reached the limits of his patience when, 5 years after he returned, Kaido/Orochi broke two promises to him. The first was to give him a ship, the second was to return Hyougoro. Instead, Kaido murdered his family, leading Oden to gather the Scabbards to try and take out Kaido.

Wait so he was arrested

 

[Reign]

Judging from Wano people's reaction whenever the topic is Kaido
"But he's just too powerful"
"It's just impossible"
"No point to resist him, we have no way of win"
Even when Luffy saved them in Udon and Kaido officers threatened them using Kaido's name, they immediately turned on Luffy

^ Kaido is super duper powerful in Wano people's eyes.
Connecting the dots, won't be surprised that Oden and his scabbards got stomped by Kaido in next chapters. Not a close battle, but 1 sided stomping.

i bet Oden scarred Kaido in a very desperate attempt, and he's putting everything he got in that one attack before Kaido clubbed him really hard. He was then brought up to flower capital and excecuted. Same manner like Luffy's being dragged to Udon by BP's fodders

 

[Topi Jerami]

This opens the chance of Oden not being the one who scarred Kaido damm

It has been clearly said it was Oden though. Although yes that was coming from biased Oden fanboy.

Seeing how Skinny Kaido is in the flashback definitely not WSC at that time

Indeed. Oden lost to skinny Kaido
B-but he is Fujitora level

 

[JerAx]

This opens the chance of Oden not being the one who scarred Kaido damm

Oda : just joking guys, here is Moria with 2 stlye enma + sushui scarring kaido lulz

 

[Topi Jerami]

Flashback Kaido = skinny Kaido

When Chopper performed better against skinny Big Mom than Lolden against skinny Kaido

 

[True God Moe]

Judging from Wano people's reaction whenever the topic is Kaido
"But he's just too powerful"
"It's just impossible"
"No point to resist him, we have no way of win"
Even when Luffy saved them in Udon and Kaido officers threatened them using Kaido's name, they immediately turned on Luffy

^ Kaido is super duper powerful in Wano people's eyes.
Connecting the dots, won't be surprised that Oden and his scabbards got stomped by Kaido in next chapters. Not a close battle, but 1 sided stomping.

That pretty much kill anything for Zoro vs Kaido as he would destroy them if Oden is being taken out by something like this. Though of course many didn't believe Zoro would do something to Kaido let alone beat him in a fight XD.

 

[Worst]

i bet Oden scarred Kaido in a very desperate attempt, and he's putting everything he got in that one attack before Kaido clubbed him really hard. He was then brought up to flower capital and excecuted. Same manner like Luffy's being dragged to Udon by BP's fodders

I'd like to be like that but meh all that flashback just to have Oden loldiffed idk if Oda will do that srsly Oden didn't got one shotted by Prime Roger's attack (sure he was bleeding and all but was still in shape to take 2 more hits imho) and sure at that time Kaido was not even close to Roger or Today's strength

 

[Nouryoku]

That was years before all of this took place... I doubt the old man and woman were aboard that ship for a variety reasons, one being chronology.

You're right, in the case of Kozaburo at lest it was 50 years ago.

 

[ardym]

Oda stated that grand fleet will grow in power just imagine they twice more powerful than they were in Dressrosa . the WG is about to get shocked and BB as well he stated that Luffy is far away from being empror .
and he will surprise all but not Mihawk he recognized his power in MF and that would be the main reason why he will take 2 yonkos together. even the like of Kid would lose the will to defeat Luffy not only because of his strength but because of his power and his endless allies who are willing to die for him.

 

[Topi Jerami]

That pretty much kill anything for Zoro vs Kaido as he would destroy them if Oden is being taken out by something like this. Though of course may didn't believe Zoro would do something to Kaido let alone beat him in a fight XD.

Well seeing how weak Oden actually is, rating him to be the same as post Wano Zoro doesn't seem to be the most accurate method..