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Who Is Luffy’s Right Hand Man?


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Luffy doesn't need g4 to beat ulti....
He couldn't get out her grip thats why he was gonna use g4 to end it fast

Again how strong do you even think she is?
And how does Luffy beat Ulti without getting out of her grip?! You seem to think that getting out of her grip and defeating her are two separate things but in reality Luffy has to escape her grip first to defeat her.

So, Luffy definitely needs G4 to beat her. Stop thinking of manga fights as one-dimensional video games where stats are everything.

I already said that Luffy can beat Ulti. But Luffy needs to go to G4 to do it. What would happen if Yamato didn't come? Luffy would go G4 or Ulti would finish her attack or both. Either way, it wouldn't be a low-diff.

Give credit where credit is due FFS.
 
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Jo_Ndule

:whitepress: Ulti didn't even beat or dominate Base Luffy
Zoan Ulti only restrained base Luffy off-guard
Luffy just finished trashing P1 then boom got stopped by Ulti

Ulti got hype but only her zoan/hybrid is above Base Luffy. She can't beta g2 and g3 luffy.

Stop writing nonsense.

It's true Marco/Kata won't be restained due to their dfs
But remember Marco got caught off-guard easily by Someone around Ulti too.
 
And how does Luffy beat Ulti without getting out of her grip?! You seem to think that getting out of her grip and defeating her are two separate things but in reality Luffy has to escape her grip first to defeat her.

So, Luffy definitely needs G4 to beat her. Stop thinking of manga fights as one-dimensional video games where stats are everything.

I already said that Luffy can beat Ulti. But Luffy needs to go to G4 to do it. What would happen if Yamato didn't come? Luffy would go G4 or Ulti would finish her attack or both. Either way, it wouldn't be a low-diff.

Give credit where credit is due FFS.
Ok for the last time how strong do you think ulti is if luffy needs G4 to defeat her?
 
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Jo_Ndule

Unlike the rest of the strawhats luffy has actually defeated top commander level characters along with getting advanced forms of 2 haki
Even when luffy looks bad it honestly doesn't really matter because we already know for a fact hes way stronger most the time

You can't say the same about the rest whos biggest accomplishments come from betting vet tier characters
So unlike luffy they don't get the same benefit until they prove themselves against legit strong characters
^^ this

Luffy can get Ls, he Still beat Doffy Cracker

What's Zoro Sanji arguments to get a pass for looking bad vs dudes below vet tier or high tier range?
 
:whitepress: Ulti didn't even beat or dominate Base Luffy
Zoan Ulti only restrained base Luffy off-guard
Luffy just finished trashing P1 then boom got stopped by Ulti

Ulti got hype but only her zoan/hybrid is above Base Luffy. She can't beta g2 and g3 luffy.

Stop writing nonsense.

It's true Marco/Kata won't be restained due to their dfs
But remember Marco got caught off-guard easily by Someone around Ulti too.
There's a difference between putting handcuffs on someone from behind and physically matching + overpowering someone Ndule, you know that well.

Luffy is absolutely embarrassing
 
:whitepress: Ulti didn't even beat or dominate Base Luffy
Zoan Ulti only restrained base Luffy off-guard
Luffy just finished trashing P1 then boom got stopped by Ulti

Ulti got hype but only her zoan/hybrid is above Base Luffy. She can't beta g2 and g3 luffy.

Stop writing nonsense.

It's true Marco/Kata won't be restained due to their dfs
But remember Marco got caught off-guard easily by Someone around Ulti too.
base Luffy couldn't shake her off (his rubber ability should make this so easy), and he decided to go straight for G4 instead of G2 or G3 (which again should've dealt with that easily), Ulti is not commander level yes, but she is going to give Luffy a run for his money.
 
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Jo_Ndule

And how does Luffy beat Ulti without getting out of her grip?! You seem to think that getting out of her grip and defeating her are two separate things but in reality Luffy has to escape her grip first to defeat her.

So, Luffy definitely needs G4 to beat her. Stop thinking of manga fights as one-dimensional video games where stats are everything.

I already said that Luffy can beat Ulti. But Luffy needs to go to G4 to do it. What would happen if Yamato didn't come? Luffy would go G4 or Ulti would finish her attack or both. Either way, it wouldn't be a low-diff.

Give credit where credit is due FFS.
Imagine thinking Luffy needs g4 to beat Ulti when Ulti wasn't even shown tanking g2 or g3.
G4 will one-shot her badly.

If Ulti was shown tanking g3, then I'll give enough credit
For now Ulti is as impressive as base Doffy vs base Luffy
 

DarkWitch

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I had the same thought. Peros coming is obviously meant for Carrot to avenge Pedro at some point.

The Alliance winning this battle gets even more likely to me
Yep that's the only reason why I think Oda had Perospero arrive by himself, when it comes to the crew Perospero is the second most important member after Katakuri. He might be a veteran but his portrayal and focus is way above the other veterans and even two of the Sweet Generals.

It's looking more and more likely that the Wano arc will be the downfall of both Big Mom and Perospero.
 
Lol people legitimately think that Luffy, who did not use either advanced CoA or future sight in this chapter again needed Gear 4 to beat Ulti. He was obviously intent on using it to end the fight quickly. He was handling both Page One and Ulti just fine, he speed blitzed both of them, and it was a real speed blitz, not one in which he’s attacking an enemy that isn’t on guard and isn’t paying attention like someone else did (which people way overhype).

Also, another reminder in this chapter for the people that say Sanji is in love with a certain navigating someone that in the middle of their most dangerous mission yet, he left everyone behind to go find prostitutes. Funny, for a few reasons.
Imagine Zoro needing not Asura but whatever his strongest is post TS to end trash like that fast... :josad:
What FS? The power that is incompatible with Luffy's character? You still counting on that to be a permanent power? Delusional...
Oda has been clear at least 10+ times that FS is not a power Luffy has, just a plot element that he can use when the story requires.

@MarineHQ62 Marco is not stronger than Zoro but he could be 2nd strongest fighter in the alliance considering others are trashy.
However, his offense may be weaker than even Luffy's, only his defense keeps him high.
 
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