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no there was no bounty requirement to become a part of worst generation. it was just a group of pirates of the same generation who were causing a lot of trouble and who caught the eyes of the world government.
worstgen literally is 11 pirates with 100m+ bounty + Blackbeard. so yeahh there was bounty requirement for being supernova and the same supernovas along with black beard were called worsgen. So indirectly worstgen did have bounty requirement. There's no one in that grouop with <100m bounty(except for blackbeard, he cant be treated the same since he caused much greater ruckus in marineford)
 
Onigashima hasn't been copy paste of anything :suresure:

It's the most unique fucking arc in OP so far.

Wings implies importance, yes, not equality. The clear-cut narrative is the Kuma situation where Sanji and Zoro are shown as most important, but Zoro a step above. Quit denying canonical stuff for the sake of factifying your interpretation. It's just like how PK's two hands would be important- but not necessarily equal.

VC straight up calls Zoro as one who acts like Vice-Captain for Luffy and crew, idk what's there to add.

And story has unfolded for 1000+ chapters so far; and Zoro has always been narratively above in power, importance, or anything in-between. That doesn't mean Sanji is shit- he's very strong and incredibly important, but his fans will be a lot happier if they just stop trying to put him on exact same pedestal at Zoro with everything.
What I meant was the King and Queen=Kaku and Jabra along with Sanjis journey throughout the arc, seems like a copy paste not the entire arc. You seem to keep going for the info in these secondary products yet never acknowledge the fact that Zoro is never officially labeled as the VC while other characters are.....is that also not a fact. I am not saying Zoro and Sanji are equal in everything, but in importance to the crew, Luffy and the narrative of the story they sure are. Sanji has acted like a VC in the story as well, literally becoming the temporary Captain of the crew when Luffy and Zoro were not present, is that not acting "like" a VC, what about Luffy assigning part of the crew to Sanji and Zoro, when he could have easily just had Zoro take Sanji under his lead along with part of the crew, that would have been the prefect moment to single Zoro out as THE leader after Luffy....but that didn't happen.
 

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The Rogue Prince
worstgen literally is 11 pirates with 100m+ bounty + Blackbeard. so yeahh there was bounty requirement for being supernova and the same supernovas along with black beard were called worsgen. So indirectly worstgen did have bounty requirement. There's no one in that grouop with <100m bounty(except for blackbeard, he cant be treated the same since he caused much greater ruckus in marineford)
it was never said that supernova + blackbeard are the worstgen. there was never a bounty requirement of sorts like the requirement to become super rookie. it is just that the people who were called the worstgen all had bounties > 100 million.

this is like saying that the bounty requirement of becoming an emperor is 2 billion since every emperor has a bounty bigger than that. we both know that its simply not true.
 
it was never said that supernova + blackbeard are the worstgen. there was never a bounty requirement of sorts like the requirement to become super rookei. it is just that the people who were called the worstgen all had bounties > 100 million.

this is like saying that the bounty requirement of becoming an emperor is 2 billion since every emperor has a bounty bigger than that. we both know that its simply not true.
"The Eleven Supernovas plus Blackbeard are now known to world as the Worst Generation"
 
it was never said that supernova + blackbeard are the worstgen. there was never a bounty requirement of sorts like the requirement to become super rookei. it is just that the people who were called the worstgen all had bounties > 100 million.

this is like saying that the bounty requirement of becoming an emperor is 2 billion since every emperor has a bounty bigger than that. we both know that its simply not true.
"Before they became known as the Worst Generation, the eleven Supernovas are the top rookie pirates from nine different crews who all chose one of the seven routes along the Grandline They are comprised of the captains of the nine crews as well as two other crewmates who also are above the bounty threshold of 100,000,000."

"All of the Worst Generation's members save for Teach were present on the Sabaody Archipelago at the same time, and were noted by Shakuyaku for their distinction of being the only rookie pirates there with bounties over 100,000,000"

This is all from the Wiki, there is clearly a bounty requirement. This title ultimately means nothing since Sanji is outperforming most of them and has a higher bounty than most of them.
 
What I meant was the King and Queen=Kaku and Jabra along with Sanjis journey throughout the arc, seems like a copy paste not the entire arc. You seem to keep going for the info in these secondary products yet never acknowledge the fact that Zoro is never officially labeled as the VC while other characters are.....is that also not a fact. I am not saying Zoro and Sanji are equal in everything, but in importance to the crew, Luffy and the narrative of the story they sure are. Sanji has acted like a VC in the story as well, literally becoming the temporary Captain of the crew when Luffy and Zoro were not present, is that not acting "like" a VC, what about Luffy assigning part of the crew to Sanji and Zoro, when he could have easily just had Zoro take Sanji under his lead along with part of the crew, that would have been the prefect moment to single Zoro out as THE leader after Luffy....but that didn't happen.
I disagree about King and Queen stuff. Zoro would've saved Asura for King if it was going to be a copy-paste.

Did I say he's officially labeled as such? I'm merely saying that canonical source states that Zoro is the one who acts as Vice Captain, not Sanji. And Vice Captain is second only to captain.

The Kuma parallel, again, shows how the hierarchy and importance narratively works. If they were equally important narratively, they'd have shared the pain. It doesn't get clearer than that.

And ofc if the crew is to split up, Zoro takes reign of one part and Sanji takes reign of other lol. Putting Sanji with Zoro makes no sense- it'd just mean that the other half lacks a leader. Other than that, Zoro generally takes command of the situation in Luffy's absence- even if Sanji is around. Oars battle, for example.
 

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The Rogue Prince
"The Eleven Supernovas plus Blackbeard are now known to world as the Worst Generation"
that's literally him stating who all belonged to the worst generation. it was never stated that not being part of the supernova disqualifies someone to be considered to be a part of worst generation. it is just that these pirates caught the eyes of the world government and this generation of pirates all happened to be a part of the supernova except teach ofcourse.

stop trying to include bounty requirements at places where it doesnt exist and justify a narrative decision that oda made to not include sanji in the worst generation in terms of bounty. if he wanted to he wouldve increased the bounty of sanji or decreased the requirement to be a super rookie.
 

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The Rogue Prince
"Before they became known as the Worst Generation, the eleven Supernovas are the top rookie pirates from nine different crews who all chose one of the seven routes along the Grandline They are comprised of the captains of the nine crews as well as two other crewmates who also are above the bounty threshold of 100,000,000."

"All of the Worst Generation's members save for Teach were present on the Sabaody Archipelago at the same time, and were noted by Shakuyaku for their distinction of being the only rookie pirates there with bounties over 100,000,000"

This is all from the Wiki, there is clearly a bounty requirement. This title ultimately means nothing since Sanji is outperforming most of them and has a higher bounty than most of them.
the wiki means absolutely nothing. according to the same wiki until a week ago, shinobu couldnt age living things because it was stated in a sbs apparently.

that's literally him stating who all belonged to the worst generation. it was never stated that not being part of the supernova disqualifies someone to be considered to be a part of worst generation. it is just that these pirates caught the eyes of the world government and this generation of pirates all happened to be a part of the supernova except teach ofcourse.

stop trying to include bounty requirements at places where it doesnt exist and justify a narrative decision that oda made to not include sanji in the worst generation in terms of bounty. if he wanted to he wouldve increased the bounty of sanji or decreased the requirement to be a super rookie.
 
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